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Old 01-10-2021, 12:43 PM
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I am headed to my garage to start to tinker with my 99xj. Are all the sockets sizes metric on an entirely stock xj? Or some combo of each?

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Mostly metric.
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Thanks very much, I will have to buy a set.
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Youl be handy capped by picking one over the other
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No. But mine is a 1996.
For example, the fasteners on the black painted bracket for the alternator has three 9/16" nuts on SAE threaded studs, and two 15mm headed bolts.

Every YouTuber on creation jams a schmetric socket onto the transmission fill and drain plugs, but those are 15/16".
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Just buy both sets
You'll encounter all kinds of varieties
(Although imho it should all have been metric because metric is better. And faster)
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Agree both. And a good set of torx. Harbor Freight's new hand tool line is phenomenal.
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On the Torx, skip the regulars and just get the security variety. The stupid things show up everywhere that they don't need to be, like at least 2 sizes of security Torx for the ignition switch.
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Thanks to everyone for their input. I am going to start pulling my seats etc. in order to get to my damp carpet padding. Some of the bolts are completely rusted over and do not move. I sprayed some P.B. Blaster and will let it sink in. Would using a hot solder iron help release them?

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On the Torx, skip the regulars and just get the security variety. The stupid things show up everywhere that they don't need to be, like at least 2 sizes of security Torx for the ignition switch.
Probably not a good idea.
Might be OK for the really small sizes but not so much for the bigger ones.
Gotta figure that hole in the middle makes them weaker.
Your dealing with a T40 or bigger be easier to twist or break the torx IMO.
If you are dealing with something really stubborn.
I have gotten the habit of buying impact torx here and there. For bigger stuff mostly.
My collection to date. LOL.

I own a regular set of torx, an external set, and the security type too.
Most of these are 1/2" drive and impact ones. I do have the one T40 3/8" drive one too.
I bought a 3/8" drive one cause I twisted the regular T40 sometime ago
Now I just use these with my ratchet and because of the size might not be able to get in every where I would need to but......

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Originally Posted by Cherokee Ppl
Happy Sunday Everyone,

I am headed to my garage to start to tinker with my 99xj. Are all the sockets sizes metric on an entirely stock xj? Or some combo of each?

Thanks,
Clint
You can get by with all metric and a 3/8" if you are stingy, the metrics will fit the other Imperial sizes, but you will need Torx sooner or later.

So you will be needing the following.

complete set of Metric and imperial wrenches, long and short sockets in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2, Torx bits, preferably security impact

and E-torx (Impact) lol
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Awhile back I got a really good deal on the Craftsman every socket they sell set.
Unfortunately it is not made in the U.S. but....
Thing is I hardly ever go into my 12 point socket drawer.
Try very hard not to.
I use them so little I am almost wondering if I should sell them. LOL.
I have wrenches up the ying yang. All 12 point.
I got it in my head that I wanted a 6 point set.
Kept poking around here and there and finally came across what I thought was a decent deal.

https://www.cpooutlets.com/gearwrenc...combo-wrenches

$77.99 shipped but they did not charge me tax.
I try to only use these too.
I would consider selling some of my 12 point ones but there will be the one time where the bolt or nut is just in the wrong position for a 6 point.

Here is my take on tools.
I have way more tools then somebody of my level of skill should own.
Tools I will probably never use.
But all it has to do is get me out of a jam one time and it was worth every penny I spent on it.
Also I am perfectly OK with not using them and letting them sit there and collect dust.
Cause if I am not using them that means everything is running as it should be.
And that is a good thing. LOL.
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Where are the security Torx used on the XJ?
I've parted out dozens of them, of all years, and never encountered them. And, they're weaker than regular ones.
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Where are the security Torx used on the XJ?
I've parted out dozens of them, of all years, and never encountered them. And, they're weaker than regular ones.
I think there is a couple in the ignition switch area.
The ignition switch actuator pin I believe.
Might have seen a couple more in there too.
This might only be a '97 and up thing.
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That explains it then. I pulled the columns complete!!
Hardly worth buying the weak security type bits and enduring the frustration just for those bolts.


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