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Old 01-11-2021, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Where are the security Torx used on the XJ?
I've parted out dozens of them, of all years, and never encountered them. And, they're weaker than regular ones.
at least 2 different sizes of security torx on the ignition switch in 1996. If it is exclusive to 1996 then oh well.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
That explains it then. I pulled the columns complete!!
Hardly worth buying the weak security type bits and enduring the frustration just for those bolts.
pretty sure they hold the "multi-function switch" as well

I have found other uses for them repairing various appliances, not having them stops you dead in your tracks

I have the Allen Key style...good for reaching up and getting the sobs in the steering wheel cover plate base, (the hole is small)

we had dishwasher the pump used to clog up, call the serviceman for $150 or do it myself, that went on for a few years, needed security torx, paid for themselves 100s x over
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Originally Posted by awg
pretty sure they hold the "multi-function switch" as well

I have found other uses for them repairing various appliances, not having them stops you dead in your tracks

I have the Allen Key style...good for reaching up and getting the sobs in the steering wheel cover plate base, (the hole is small)

we had dishwasher the pump used to clog up, call the serviceman for $150 or do it myself, that went on for a few years, needed security torx, paid for themselves 100s x over
The optional roof mount tire rack is attached with 4 security hex.
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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
The optional roof mount tire rack is attached with 4 security hex.
Security hex?
I had to Google it.
That is a new one on me.
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Thanks to all of my friends here. So why are 12 point sockets worse than 6 points? My tool ignorance tells me more is better.
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Take a look at a bolt or nut.
What do you see?
6 sides.
Many of us deal with rusty hardware on our 20+ year old XJ's.
If you are going to strip the head of a bolt it is more likely to happen with a 12 point.
Not saying that a 6 point is the answer to all your problems but IMO less likely.
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
Security hex?
I had to Google it.
That is a new one on me.
I have no idea where the Jeep supplied tool went to. Getting a set of those things is a trick.
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Some bolts are 12 point like the 13mm heads on unit bearing bolts.
To me a 6 point socket is what I usually grab. But have to have 12s for some stuff.
I've found harbor freight is awesome. I have full sae sets of deep. Normal and a set of shallow sockets full set of Allen's torques and the star funky drive can't think what there called.

By what you need as you need it . Youl constantly be adding to your set as you find you need this and that.
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Watch out for the YouTubers, they want to slap a schmetric tools onto absolutely anything. It is as if they have never heard of United States Customary Units.

One recent issue, my six point socket sets didn't have 15/16" and that is the head on my transmission fill and drain plugs. Have it in 12, but so many people seem to have rounded off fill plugs and I didn't want to join them. Granted, some of those might be self inflicted from using 24mm twelve point sockets.

I do have deep well six point 15/16" in an impact set, and finding a short one in chrome at Lowe's proved to be a challenge. Someone there thinks that 12 point sockets are the same as six point sockets, so the six point bins are full to the top with 12 point. I found a short Craftsman 15/16" six point impact, finally, and got that.
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Well I never really know half the time what size I need.
So eyeball the bolt or nut, grab what I think it might be, 3 SAE and 3 metric, crawl under there,
find out I am off by one size, bigger or smaller, crawl back out, get what I need, in both SAE and metric,
figure which one IMO fits best, and use it.
LOL.
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Originally Posted by xcrement
Agree both. And a good set of torx. Harbor Freight's new hand tool line is phenomenal.
I've always had pretty good experience with their brands... and for a fraction of the price. Are they the quality of Craftsman and SnapOn... no...but for about half the price and lasts pretty good for what I need, it's a no brainer.
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How can you complain with a lifetime warranty?!
I've only broken two items, one socket adapter and one extension, both being used with much higher torque than they were made for.
Replaced with no questions asked.
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Originally Posted by Spencer_P
How can you complain with a lifetime warranty?!
I've only broken two items, one socket adapter and one extension, both being used with much higher torque than they were made for.
Replaced with no questions asked.
Doesn't Harbor Freight do that now too?
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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
Doesn't Harbor Freight do that now too?
That's what I was referring to.
Haha... I don't own any Snap-On.
I have one Blue Point socket that I found, which probably cost more than any of my sets.
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My SAE flare nut wrenches are Craftsman, from Lowe's. The schmetric set is Harbor Freight. Can't tell much difference between the finish on the wrenches. The HF wrench set holder is a lot better.


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