Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

my jeeps making a terrible click sound..engine knock? lifter tap? (video included)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-09-2011 | 10:13 PM
  #1  
JSmith0055's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
From: Rhode Island
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default my jeeps making a terrible click sound..engine knock? lifter tap? (video included)

ive been told it is most likely lifter tap... the engine has around 130k i believe, could it be the tranny?

http://

sorry for bad quality just did this on my phone

ps. anybody know a diff way to put vids on here?

thank you for any input
Old 09-09-2011 | 10:45 PM
  #2  
supermini99's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
From: WA
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

How's your oil pressure? Almost sounds like low oil pressure or even may have spun a bearing.Have u checked your oil like to inspect it?
Old 09-09-2011 | 10:51 PM
  #3  
JSmith0055's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
From: Rhode Island
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

yeah it cooks ok, the oil pressue does seem to change alot though, i was thinking the oil pump is out and the oils not getting disbursed? idk
Old 09-09-2011 | 11:11 PM
  #4  
Turbo X_J's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 19
From: ☼ Blackhole Sun
Year: My Jeep is a GMC
Default

Sorry dude, that motor is singing it's deathsong.

Old 09-09-2011 | 11:16 PM
  #5  
fishfast41's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: Menomonee Falls, Wi
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

Sounds to me like something loose and rubbing against something else. Flexplate bolts? Maybe flexplate inspection cover bent and getting hit?
Old 09-10-2011 | 12:36 AM
  #6  
supermini99's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
From: WA
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by fishfast41
Sounds to me like something loose and rubbing against something else. Flexplate bolts? Maybe flexplate inspection cover bent and getting hit?
This could be it
Old 09-10-2011 | 12:39 AM
  #7  
supermini99's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
From: WA
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by JSmith0055
yeah it cooks ok, the oil pressue does seem to change alot though, i was thinking the oil pump is out and the oils not getting disbursed? idk
The oil pressure seems to change a lot like? Like does the oil pressure go up when u drive and goes back down when your at idle? If so im sure that is normal mine does that. When you rev it up does the clapping get louder?
Old 09-10-2011 | 01:11 AM
  #8  
K-SKI's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
From: brandenburg ky
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6
Default

dude that sounds like a rod about to jump out of the block
Old 09-10-2011 | 02:59 PM
  #9  
JSmith0055's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
From: Rhode Island
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

All i know is i dont have the $$ to get it loocked at/fixed right now so ive been just driving it lol
Old 09-10-2011 | 03:00 PM
  #10  
JSmith0055's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
From: Rhode Island
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

It wasnt doing it until i took an hour n a half drive to CT and i looked and my trans fluid seemed to be almost dry, so i figured it was that, i added fluid but shure enough its still going
Old 09-10-2011 | 03:27 PM
  #11  
DFlintstone's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,489
Likes: 19
From: Nor-Cal Coast
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
Default

You have real trouble. (yea, you knew that). Change it to straight weight oil, 40 or 50 if you can find it. Then some STP or something similar. Then keep the RPM's down and keep you foot out of it. Avoiding the freeway would be good. If you go around the distributor unplugging wires one at a time you can find the bad one. You might want to leave that one off. You'r not going far ether way. If you pulled the pan you might find some piston in it, would be my first guess because of the blow by, (smoke from cover). If it IS a rod you can try sticking some inserts in it but that won't last as the crank will have been beaten. I've never tried pork rind...guess they used to have it in bait shops!

You should pull the little inspection plate on the bell-housing over the flywheel(torque plate), and check the bolts holding the torque converter. Sounds like your engine, but that is an easy check...

Last edited by DFlintstone; 09-10-2011 at 03:40 PM.
Old 09-11-2011 | 04:54 AM
  #12  
413maxwedge's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 689
Likes: 2
From: Upstate N.Y
Year: 2000.1999,1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Well I can tell you 100% not lifter knock at all not even close. Bad bearing's most likily, maybe flex plate bolts but, I'm leaning more towards the motor. Run her till it dies, by no means run thicker oil in it , that will only make it worse because thicker oil will have a harder time getting where it should go. Thicker oil does nothing but make it harder on your motor, I hate when people tell someone to do that it's stupidity at it's best.Pork rinds? I think you mean leather thats what they use to do, on the older less tight tolerance motors along with the thick oil for the OLDER motors of the 60's and ealier.

Last edited by 413maxwedge; 09-11-2011 at 05:04 AM.
Old 09-11-2011 | 05:16 AM
  #13  
DFlintstone's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,489
Likes: 19
From: Nor-Cal Coast
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
Default

Hee Hee...Pork rind was a joke. They use to use it because it's tougher than leather, but I think it's a bit out of fashion. Agreed thick oil in a new engine in cold weather would be stupid. Thin oil in hot weather in a clearanced engine makes about as much sense. Got my 90 in 02 with a noticeable rod knock. Normally warm here but PO use to take it skiing allot and ran 10-30. Almost 10 years now on straight WT Castrol 30 WT and no problems. "stupidity at it's best" is working fine for me, thanks. Don
Old 09-11-2011 | 07:35 AM
  #14  
SWAMPRAT XJ's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Durban, South Africa
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 l
Default

That one sounds very much like what i had, normal oil pressure, no miss fire
turned out to be a broken piston, no.6. The skirt broke off bellow the gudgeon
pin . No. 1 had a crack as well. Replaced the whole lot....
Old 09-11-2011 | 11:07 AM
  #15  
CherokeeCountry's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 882
Likes: 2
From: Michigan (Home state) Stationed in Montana
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 5.2L MPI V8 (318)
Default

Agree with the previous post; I believe you're about to throw a rod right through the block. Sounds identical to what I heard just before I literally saw my buddies 6 throw a rod through his block.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:40 PM.