My steering box bolts keep breaking
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My steering box bolts keep breaking
Ok, this is a known issue and subject to a factory recall, but this is getting to the ridiculous stage.
I keep breaking steering bolts. Nearly 10 in the last 80k miles I had had this one.
The first time my son was driving and they all broke in quick succession, leaving him stranded, luckily within sight of home
Its always in the same place, where the thread joins the shank.
I carry spares with me. They snap with a loud bang when tight parking. I have come to recognise this sound.
Once the first one is broken, the other 2 have excessive force on them, and break quite soon after, so its best to attend immediately, on the side of the road even
The bolts are Grade 8 from specialist. They snap due to brittleness, so maybe I should try Grade 5?
I came across an XJ that had suffered the same fate, blocking the traffic, I felt under for the owner, all 3 bolts snapped, told him and said get a tow truck
I will make more comments once I have got some feedback
I keep breaking steering bolts. Nearly 10 in the last 80k miles I had had this one.
The first time my son was driving and they all broke in quick succession, leaving him stranded, luckily within sight of home
Its always in the same place, where the thread joins the shank.
I carry spares with me. They snap with a loud bang when tight parking. I have come to recognise this sound.
Once the first one is broken, the other 2 have excessive force on them, and break quite soon after, so its best to attend immediately, on the side of the road even
The bolts are Grade 8 from specialist. They snap due to brittleness, so maybe I should try Grade 5?
I came across an XJ that had suffered the same fate, blocking the traffic, I felt under for the owner, all 3 bolts snapped, told him and said get a tow truck
I will make more comments once I have got some feedback
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was 2" now 3.5"
265/70/16
The cause is clearly flexion on the unirail against the box, as the original items were Loctite in and a major pita to replace
I have seen many examples were the frame rail itself fractures, hence steering braces, plating, and an entirely upgraded kit that involves steel inner brace to replace alloy OEM, a plate with welded pipes that goes thru rail etc
I do them up very tight without a Torque wrench, although I have them, I would estimate 100ftlbs
I think in my case, there is no alternative but to attempt to brace the steering box and add stiffening plates and braces on the unirail
Its a known fact of mechanical engineering that where the thread joins the shank is a weak point (which is addressed if its a critical application)
They are snapping like a rifle shot due to a characteristic of Grade 8, Grade 5 are more ductile
I totally agree there is no way they should be snapping
I even make a hacksaw cut in the end of each bolt so I can wind the broken stub out on the roadside.
I thought I had the problem licked with some mods I have done
Maybe I just got unlucky, as a might kerb shot has bent the **** out of my LCA mount, Every suspension part took a hit. A less stout vehicle would be a write off
265/70/16
The cause is clearly flexion on the unirail against the box, as the original items were Loctite in and a major pita to replace
I have seen many examples were the frame rail itself fractures, hence steering braces, plating, and an entirely upgraded kit that involves steel inner brace to replace alloy OEM, a plate with welded pipes that goes thru rail etc
I do them up very tight without a Torque wrench, although I have them, I would estimate 100ftlbs
I think in my case, there is no alternative but to attempt to brace the steering box and add stiffening plates and braces on the unirail
Its a known fact of mechanical engineering that where the thread joins the shank is a weak point (which is addressed if its a critical application)
They are snapping like a rifle shot due to a characteristic of Grade 8, Grade 5 are more ductile
I totally agree there is no way they should be snapping
I even make a hacksaw cut in the end of each bolt so I can wind the broken stub out on the roadside.
I thought I had the problem licked with some mods I have done
Maybe I just got unlucky, as a might kerb shot has bent the **** out of my LCA mount, Every suspension part took a hit. A less stout vehicle would be a write off
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I don’t want to sound patronizing here so bear with me. Reminds me of a guy I knew who had a wheel fall off while he was driving. He was telling me now he makes sure the lug nuts are tight by standing on the tire iron and jumping on it. Well, since you can tighten a bolt till it snaps, if you tighten it 98% of the way to failure it just takes a bump to pop it. I think less torque and a touch of thread locker is your best bet.
I found a spec that says 70ft.lbs. for the steering gear box bolts. I would try that with a torque wrench. I also wonder if you have some flex in the frame adding to the stresses.
I found a spec that says 70ft.lbs. for the steering gear box bolts. I would try that with a torque wrench. I also wonder if you have some flex in the frame adding to the stresses.
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