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Old 09-07-2011 | 08:26 PM
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Ok so far today I put on a new brake switch, new bulbs and have poked around under the hood extensively. I tried to jump across the two wires going into the switch and still got nothing out of it. Im kind of at a loss as to what to try next. all my other lights work signals tail lights headlights parking lights. Any one else had this problem? I did a search and saw a lot of other people had this problem but couldnt verify if they found a fix.
Old 09-07-2011 | 10:13 PM
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anyone have any ideas?
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Sounds like two different issues... I would imagine out cherkee the fuse.for the brake lights? And the brake light switch located in the pedal up the arm?
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If the fuse and the flasher are good, it's likely a bad turn signal switch. The power for the brake lights, as well as the hazards, runs through the turn signal switch.
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OK I Lost the turn signals today. Any idea where to locate a new switch? And how much is involved in swapping it out?
Old 09-08-2011 | 06:20 PM
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OK I Lost the turn signals today. Any idea where to locate a new switch? And how much is involved in swapping it out?
It's old enough now that you should be able to get one from a local parts store. Failing that, the dealer.

The steering wheel and lock plate will need to come off. The switch is located under the lock plate.

A tip for getting the wire harness back down through the column... Fold the connector flat over the wires so its more streamlined then stuff down through the column.
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OK I Lost the turn signals today. Any idea where to locate a new switch? And how much is involved in swapping it out?
Check rockauto.com
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dude i just fixed the same problem earlier this week put a bigger fuse in the box, then go to the brake pedal and rewire the switch and remember which on goes where the one i had problems with was the one that points to the seat not the door.
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dude i just fixed the same problem earlier this week put a bigger fuse in the box, then go to the brake pedal and rewire the switch and remember which on goes where the one i had problems with was the one that points to the seat not the door.
Putting a bigger fuse in the box will not solve his problem, it will only increase the chances of his wiring harness burning up.

If a fuse blows, there's a reason for it and you need to find it.
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yes but you cant find any problems if the damn fuse blows every time you change it and over the last 7 years i have found that some times that can be the only way to figure out what is wrong be sides if you would have read the whole thing it says to rewire the switch

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yes but you cant find any problems if the damn fuse blows every time you change it and over the last 7 years i have found that some times that can be the only way to figure out what is wrong be sides if you would have read the whole thing it says to rewire the switch
With all due respect, I have been a certified auto and heavy diesel mechanic since 1983, and a good portion of those years specializing in electrical. At no time have I ever installed a bigger fuse to "smoke test" a problem.

Most problems become readily apparent upon careful inspection of a schematic, components and wiring. Fuses usually blow as a result of a direct short to ground. Bigger fuses only mask the problem and melt wires.
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Picked up a new switch locally lets see if that takes care of it. But it has yet to blow a.fuse guys. IM hoping that means I don't have a short to Chase down.
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Originally Posted by allsierra123
Picked up a new switch locally lets see if that takes care of it. But it has yet to blow a.fuse guys. IM hoping that means I don't have a short to Chase down.
Be careful removing the lock plate o-ring. They are stupid-expensive ($10) if you happen to bend it up. During my short 8 years I spent working at Delphi Saginaw Steering building these columns, we used to sweep these rings up and throw them in the trash by the thousands. They were all over the floor by the o-ring press. Who woulda thought they'd get that much money for a single one at the dealer? Lol.
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I have the same issue. No brake lights no signals but my clock and radio are involved too. I replace the turn signal switch and the ignition switch but nothing. Ive chased wires and everything. I'm curious to see what someone else comes up with
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Originally Posted by Woody32
I have the same issue. No brake lights no signals but my clock and radio are involved too. I replace the turn signal switch and the ignition switch but nothing. Ive chased wires and everything. I'm curious to see what someone else comes up with
The radio is usually on the same circuit as dome light and cigarette lighter. Kids are notorious for putting pennies and foil gum wrappers in the lighter socket. If you have a blown courtesy fuse, remove the lighters, if any, and check the sockets.

What year is your Jeep? Do you have access to a schematic?



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