Oil filters... Im using fram i hear bad things
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Fram
Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire
Champion Labs
Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust
Wix
Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)
Purolator (Arvin Meritor)
Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo
Denso
Toyota
Mann+Hummel
Mann
Volvo
Clarcor
Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite
QS qith 240k, no sludge
Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire
Champion Labs
Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust
Wix
Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)
Purolator (Arvin Meritor)
Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo
Denso
Toyota
Mann+Hummel
Mann
Volvo
Clarcor
Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite
QS qith 240k, no sludge
#32
Growing up I always used fram, until this thread, I've never heard of the failures of their filters. I have recently switch to napa gold, but that was more because of the deals I get on them. What about using lucas oil additive when comparing it to royal purple?
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Great Stuff Diesel! Thanks for that run down. I know that the WIX is the way to go but on a internals view is the Purolator pretty comparable in quality?
I know that I watched the videos on youtube comparing the internals and thought the Puralator was pretty strong.. Let me know what you all think.. thanks
I know that I watched the videos on youtube comparing the internals and thought the Puralator was pretty strong.. Let me know what you all think.. thanks
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Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Fram
Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire
Champion Labs
Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust
Wix
Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)
Purolator (Arvin Meritor)
Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo
Denso
Toyota
Mann+Hummel
Mann
Volvo
Clarcor
Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite
QS qith 240k, no sludge
Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire
Champion Labs
Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust
Wix
Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)
Purolator (Arvin Meritor)
Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo
Denso
Toyota
Mann+Hummel
Mann
Volvo
Clarcor
Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite
QS qith 240k, no sludge
Just to add it.. Doesn't Champion Labs make the Royal Purple extended life Oil Filter?? I am pretty sure but wanted to see if I could get a confirm.
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10w30 Castrol GTX High Mileage non synthetic with a standard Mopar oil filter.
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Great Stuff Diesel! Thanks for that run down. I know that the WIX is the way to go but on a internals view is the Purolator pretty comparable in quality?
I know that I watched the videos on youtube comparing the internals and thought the Puralator was pretty strong.. Let me know what you all think.. thanks
I know that I watched the videos on youtube comparing the internals and thought the Puralator was pretty strong.. Let me know what you all think.. thanks
Many filters are very good, purolator, mobile1, wix, napa, all very good.
Correct
Last edited by Diesel; 01-26-2011 at 12:06 PM.
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Lucas:
Residual Oil, Petroleum Solvent Refined
CAS: 64742014
Concentration <60%
Its pretty much gear oil and some additives.
Residual Oil, Petroleum Solvent Refined
CAS: 64742014
Concentration <60%
Its pretty much gear oil and some additives.
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The definitive filter comparison:
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil.../opinions.html
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...reference.html
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil.../opinions.html
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...reference.html
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I work at NAPA and we have a display on the counter that compares dissected Fram and Wix filters. Compared to the Wix, the Fram pleats look like fabric softener sheets!! I avoid Fram products like the plague.
I DO however like the textured bottom of the Fram. Good idea, but not nearly good enough to compensate for such poor quality.
Personally, I stick to Wix or Mopar filters (or Motorcraft for my fords). Castrol 10W30 oil. I'd like to run Amsoil or Mobil 1 synthetic, but with 150K plus miles, I'm afraid that the switch would be bad on the seals.
Napa Gold #1085, Ftw...
I DO however like the textured bottom of the Fram. Good idea, but not nearly good enough to compensate for such poor quality.
Personally, I stick to Wix or Mopar filters (or Motorcraft for my fords). Castrol 10W30 oil. I'd like to run Amsoil or Mobil 1 synthetic, but with 150K plus miles, I'm afraid that the switch would be bad on the seals.
Napa Gold #1085, Ftw...
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While on this topic... I've experienced Fram filter failure (in a 400hp Chevy motor) and it wasn't fun. The filter element collapsed and forced the oil through the bypass. But on a side note, the Wal Mart near my house started carrying the Mopar 090 filter. I figure you can't go wrong using the Mopar filter, and if I get the installation just right, the Jeep logo is straight up...
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While on this topic... I've experienced Fram filter failure (in a 400hp Chevy motor) and it wasn't fun. The filter element collapsed and forced the oil through the bypass. But on a side note, the Wal Mart near my house started carrying the Mopar 090 filter. I figure you can't go wrong using the Mopar filter, and if I get the installation just right, the Jeep logo is straight up...
If you want, go to your local napa and get a napa silver for a couple bucks cheaper, or a napa gold for about the same price. The napa silver is the same thing, just cheaper. The gold is about the same price as the mopar, but a better filter.
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Originally Posted by kemjeep
Go with purolator had 92 from 01 to 10 used fram ph8a with no problems 3k changes but that was then this is now valvoline maxlife blend 10x30wt. oil pur. filter