Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Oil pressure woes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-12-2008 | 09:33 AM
  #1  
lastclodstanding's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
From: Fitzgerald, GA
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: stock 4.0
Default Oil pressure woes

My Renix also has some oil pressure issues. After getting it up to about 210 and driving it the oil pressure drops to about 15-18 psi per the in dash guage and about 20 around 1500 rpm. Got a mech guage to check it today and if it looks bad I am gonna give the engine a good flush to see if it helps. If not I am gonna swap out to a high volume pump. If anyone has any suggestions or comments I am totally open to ideas. (I hate changing oil pumps, not hard just aggrivating on the XJ's)
Old 05-12-2008 | 10:23 AM
  #2  
XJ Stryker's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,661
Likes: 14
From: Smiths Station, Al
Year: 87
Model: Wagoneer
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by lastclodstanding
My Renix also has some oil pressure issues. After getting it up to about 210 and driving it the oil pressure drops to about 15-18 psi per the in dash guage and about 20 around 1500 rpm. Got a mech guage to check it today and if it looks bad I am gonna give the engine a good flush to see if it helps. If not I am gonna swap out to a high volume pump. If anyone has any suggestions or comments I am totally open to ideas. (I hate changing oil pumps, not hard just aggrivating on the XJ's)

Pull your valve cover it will give you an idea of how much sludge is built up. My 87 is running at 18-22 PSI. I am getting ready to pull the pan on that one but this was my valve cover



My oil pump is probably clogged with sludge like that. I plan on cleaning it all up. And then hoping I will get my oil pressure back.
Old 05-12-2008 | 11:18 AM
  #3  
lastclodstanding's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
From: Fitzgerald, GA
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: stock 4.0
Default

If clogging is my only concern then I will be happy. I worry about bearing wear on the 4.0 with 172,000 miles. Without removing the cover you can see the rocker arms though the oil port and they look clean. But the cover is leaking anyway so a simple tear down and cleaning wont be too bad. If the mechanical guage reads in line with the dash guage then I am gonna drop the axle, remove the starter, drop the exhaust for clearance and pull the pan and pray that it looks good. The Renix runs pretty good right now. Nothing knocks or chatters, so heres to hoping the guage isnt reading right. I already replace the sending unit also.
Old 05-12-2008 | 11:31 AM
  #4  
BlueXJ's Avatar
Renix Super Guru
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 19
From: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

High volume oil pump is for "volume" not for pressure! If you want pressure you will need a higher viscosity oil. JMHO!

BTW you don't need to remove all that to get the pan off. Just take down the rubberized apron on the lower end of the engine (if you still have one) and as XJStryker will attest, you can get the pan right off, after draining it of course. Just thought I would save you all that unneeded work.

Last edited by BlueXJ; 05-12-2008 at 11:35 AM.
Old 05-12-2008 | 11:50 AM
  #5  
lastclodstanding's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
From: Fitzgerald, GA
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: stock 4.0
Default

I know the high volume pumps is for volume not pressure, but on previous vehicles changing to a high volume pump has increase dthe pressure some just due to the larger amount of oil being pushed though the engine. Example I can use is a good friend's, Brian, sister 88 XJ. The pressure had started to drop on her XJ and after trying a few things we decided on a hv oil pump. Now she stays @ 30 psi after warming up @ idle and around 45 off idle.

I dont know if the XJ has the rubbberized apron on it still or not. Her did and it made it a nightmare to get around. Thanks for the heads up BlueXJ, just saved me a lot of head aches.

I am debating on going ahead and order my 4.5 RC lift and do it all at once. Argh can make up my mind.
Old 05-12-2008 | 06:17 PM
  #6  
jeeptech's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Osceola, In.
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Lots of 4.0s with low oil pressure and no noise I've found have worn cam bearings and pressure is blleding off there. It's a pain because the engine has to come out and the head off to pull the cam and replace the bearings and a special installer is required. If you gotta pull the motor w/that many miles, it's time to rebuild.
Old 05-12-2008 | 06:30 PM
  #7  
BlueXJ's Avatar
Renix Super Guru
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 19
From: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

Never tried to replace the cam bearings but have changed a cam without pulling the engine. Had to remove the radiator and the (non-working) condenser, head and lifters. Lifters came out a lot easier than I thought. Used a magnet and a piece of garden hose over the shaft of the magnet's handle. Put in a performance cam. What a waste of time and effort. The ECU negated all the work by altering the timing to compensate for the cams duration and lift. Oh well, any thing that don't work needs to be written off as a learning experiment.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Theodore Chaney
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
5
09-05-2018 12:59 PM
tristanp
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
2
09-15-2015 05:06 PM
Blackxj51
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
22
09-13-2015 07:06 PM
15XJ
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
7
09-11-2015 12:17 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:25 AM.