so... what you should get out of your answers on here is A) Change the oil B) Change the filter C) Don't drink the oil. Do all that and you will be just fine.

 

^THIS

 

Like or Dislike fram....

is 1 dollar difference really worth the risk? I'd rather go for the filter that is clearly better built for 1$ more. How cheap are you really? Yeah you might not have any problems until the time you do have problems and the thing implodes itself and those little chunks of metal from the inner liner go into your engine.

for the 1 dollar difference go the better filter. Jesus it never ceases to amaze me how cheap people are. If you want to be a cheap skate go buy a honda civic.

Edit: Here are the prices for god sake.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en Fram 4.99

http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,cata...WIX_51085.html 4.74

You can get a WIX cheaper than a damn fram. Why even bother when you know for sure the wix is better? Not even saying the fram will implode.. you get a better product for the same price

 

I try to avoid these oil threads like the plauge, but I'll bite. Btw, this topic has been covered COUNTLESS COUNTLESS times over. The search button can be your best friend, just give it a chance.

Onto the thread. The person calling people simpletons and talking about how much ignorance one brain can hold, I lol'd at you. Hard. Fram oil filter hysteria is not just based on myth or being 'simple'. Look at the research. The ONLY FRAM filter I would ever run (and I'm talking I'm in a bad spot with absolutely no other choice) is their tough gaurd. Even then, those are of a much poorer quality compared to the rest of the oil world. I understand you may enjoy blowing your Fram trumpet, and I'm glad you've had good luck with your filters. Notice the key words "GOOD LUCK". If you still want to call people like me simpletons or ignorant, I also recommend you use the search function as well as google, and the best BITOG. Fram filters are of extremely low quality, and their functionality has not one damn thing to do with how frequently you change your oil or what brand of oil you go with. Fram is just a special way to spell junk. As firestorm said, go to the junkyard and confirm with your eyes. Then check out us simpletons with the extra $1 filters (wix, napa gold, etc.) still driving around with no issues.

To the OP, run whatever you want. As long as it's proper weight. You can even run 5w30 if you'd like: there is much research proving 10w is basically obsolete. A 5w will do you fine. However, if you burn oil (like me), I am considering sticking with a 10wXX in the summer to assist in oil control around valve stem seals with the increased heat. Right now I have Rotella T6 full syn 5w40 in my rig, and I love it. I first switched to a full syn at 190k miles, and my rig didn't explode or lift off into Heaven. I am at 207k+ now. Go with your preference, and stick with it. There will NEVER be a definative answer for this question, except the basic weights and qualities.

 

Well, that pretty well sums it up. On to the next topic.

 

I don't understand all of this nonsense about look at the fillters in cars at the JY's. 1. every JY I have been at I have never noticed that there is an abundance of one brand. 2. If you think that the brand of a oil filter has to do with why cars go to the JY in the first place you are kidding yourself. 3. You don't know how the cars were maintained thats like saying "oh there is so many jeeps in JY's don't buy a jeep"

 

Thanks, loving so far

 

Just switched to Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic at 122000 miles, she's running great!

 

Some people say going to synthetic at high miles could cause leaks

 

LOL, mine leaks as is (Valve cover and oil filter adapter) and 122K isn't really high on mileage for these engines.

 

I'll agree the JY thing is a tad out of field, but I have seen an abundance of Fram filters on junked cars. I have also personally seen negative effects caused by a Fram filter, then CORRECTED with a simple filter change. Fram is junk. Anyone can blow the FRAM trumpet or attest to its "awesomeness", but the facts and experiences of MANY people prove otherwise.

That's a common myth, and actually most full synthetic oils have VERY good oil seal conditioners that, if anything, help correct existing leaks and prevent future ones. The main benefit of a full syn oil is it's increased structural stability in the face of extreme friction and its temperature stability. Cliff notes, Full Syn can have an extended change interval and handles extreme temperatures better. However, there are other benefits, but I will admit I am no expert on them.

 

Ouch $110 oil filter, never have to buy another though as it's a washable element and not paper
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PFS-10881/

 

I'm not really blowing the trumpet all i'm doing is giving my opinion that I use valvoline 10w-30 and use FRAM oil filters I have used this combo for over 2 years in my jeep with no issues.

 

Wow... nice find lol. I didn't even think a washable oil filter existed. I have to wonder though... how do you make sure you have EVERY little contaminant out of it?

 

Well thats something we agree on. Pretty interresting.