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Old 06-26-2017, 04:27 PM
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Sorry to revive an old thread, I've been found a short term solution of simply turning up the radio!

After a bit of reflection, I concede it's highly unlikely a drivetrain part, the noise is so consistent it must be something spinning/moving. It sounds so much like a flex bolt issue, I'm considering checking it for a third time!
I found a great show on YouTube, Roadkill, some of you might know it, they were putting together an auto trans and fitted a slightly larger torque converter than standard and when they spun it, it made the same uncanny noise as mine. They mentioned that it was hitting the trans pump...

Have you guys heard of xj torque converters doing this? Perhaps the previous owner had to replace the TC? How long do they typically last for?
It could be the the pump itself or the TC itself?
You guys ever heard of these going bad, any telltail signs?
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Howsabout doing this?

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/ho...ocking-125547/
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Done that twice, all the bolt seem tight, also checked for cracks...could it be possible that there are cracks on the other side that aren't visible? Also the noise only appears after I've driven it for a while...perhaps has something to do with the heat of the fluid?
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Originally Posted by winston427
The torque converter bolts are notorious for backing out and making contact with the transmission bell housing. Very common problem on the XJs. This is exactly what it sounds like to me.
YEP!! Happened to me twice til I got smart and used some loctite! The first time I thought that I spun a bearing!!

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FOUND IT!!! I thought I was gonna have to take my transmission apart to find this thing!
Turns our old boy @Superslow claimed it earlier and my complete incompetence missed it. What I thought was the purge solenoid wasn't the purge solenoid, so after reading a thread that sounded EXACTLY like mine, I rechecked, and BAM, found it.
Thanks for all the replies, I'm a total novice learning as much as I can from anywhere I can and this forum is incredibly helpful.
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What's crazy is how you can hear the knocking so well inside the cabin but not at all in the engine compartment. You can feel it with your finger but it's obvious with the stethoscope.

And thanks for the update. I wish more people would post up when the problem is resolved.
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Originally Posted by Superslow
What's crazy is how you can hear the knocking so well inside the cabin but not at all in the engine compartment. You can feel it with your finger but it's obvious with the stethoscope.

And thanks for the update. I wish more people would post up when the problem is resolved.
You checked the bolts?
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
You checked the bolts?
Yep checked it twice.

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