Well i went to do a rotation and turns out my rear wheels are rusted to the drums. I dont know if when i had it services last they didn't clean off the two surfaces or what. I just want to rotate my tires... without messing but my rear brakes. Any suggestions...

 

PB Blaster,BFH.

 

"The April/May 2007 edition of Machinist's Workshop did a test of penetrating oils where they measured the force required to loosen rusty test devices. Buy the issue if you want to see how they did the test. The results reported were interesting. The lower the number of pounds the better. Mighty interesting results for simple acetone and tranny fluid!

Penetrating oil . Average load .. Price per fluid ounce
None ................. 516 pounds .
WD-40 .............. 238 pounds .. $0.25
PB Blaster ......... 214 pounds .. $0.35
Liquid Wrench ... 127 pounds .. $0.21
Kano Kroil ........ 106 pounds .. $0.75
ATF-Acetone mix.. 53 pounds .. $0.10

The ATF-Acetone mix was a 50/50 mix (1 to 1 ratio)."

 

never heard of most of those..

BFH.. PB or liquid wrench!

 

Here is what you do. Lift the rear end off the ground, take lug nuts off, and beat the s**t out of the tire. It will come off, its just rusted on there, ive had this problem before.

 

How about if you raise it up, take the lug nuts off and then SLOWLY lower it with your floor jack. The weight of the jeep will break the tire loose from the drum.
If you don't have a good floor jack that goes down really slow use wood timbers under the axel so you can't dump the whole thing on the ground.

"Poster not responsible for any damage incurred following red-neck advice"...
Mike

 

Here's what I did - not saying it's the best idea out there, but it worked awesome, with little effort.

Just loosen the lugs a little bit (maybe half or a full turn), and drive around the block once or twice. If you can hit a couple bumps, even better! They WILL break loose!

 

Yea, better yet do what the other guy said "loosen the lugnuts a turn or so" while doing this... Of course that would be less dangerous!!

 

I hope some of you guys are joking around.

The best bet is to jack it up and take the lug nuts off. Use your the ball or the heal of your foot to kick the tire. Not the rim, but the outer edge of the tire. It should break loose.

Don't use a hammer because you could dent the rim or break the drum.

PA-lease don't drive around the block with them loose. You'll just damage the wheels or lugs or both.

If that doesn't work, you may have to put heat to it. Good luck.

 

I agree...don't drive around with loose lugs. Get it up on a jackstand and kick the tire. It will break loose!

 

that is just plain old bad advise.

 

I have had this issue several times mostly with alloy rims. What I have done is jacked up said vehicle and placed them on stands. Then I spray the center with wd 40. Then taking a RUBBER mallet I start hitting on the back side of the tire. Normally I have to work it around several times to get the rim off.

After you get it off, I take a wire brush and clean as much rust off the drums and axle, as well as the front hubs when I put it back on.

 

thats what I did and it will trash your rear brakes more. if you crawl unter the back of the xj under the gas tank and look at the other side of the drum, there will be a little oval plug on the bottom that you can pull out and with an angled flat head you can undo the adjuster a couple of turns to back the breaks away from the drum. its kind of a hastle but its the smooth way without pounding. there is a little wheel with notches like a gear in there, you know the one on the inside of the brakes that seperates the bottom of the shoes and changes the angles

 

Drive around the block with loosened lugnuts? Man, I hope you don't live in my town! Penetrant around the pilot (center hole) and a few swift kicks should get her done! If that does'nt work a few smacks on the back side of the tire with a BFH (avoiding the rim obviousely) should free it up.

 

Wow. And I thought my friends and I were the only ones who called it a BFH. This is what ours looks like http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...keyword=hammer . And as for getting it off, a couple of swift kicks should knock it right off. Just make sure the it is on jack stands and/or secure on the jack.