Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Renix Missfire over 2k rpm/hitting a cutoff at 2k rpm

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-11-2020, 06:22 PM
  #31  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
aroundincircles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,377
Received 127 Likes on 99 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Well... it's not a fuel pump, or fuel injectors, or a new tank of gas...

I had a new distributer show up today, I've never replaced more than a cap/rotor before, so I'm a bit nervous to do it, but nothing I've done has changed anything, so willing to try. also willing to take any other suggestions. Still not able to rev over 2k rpm.
Old 12-12-2020, 09:39 AM
  #32  
CF Veteran
 
Saudade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,765
Received 470 Likes on 384 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I did mine a few moths ago. Hardest part was sawing off the tab on the housing.

Here's the direct link to Cruiser54's site.

http://cruiser54.com/?p=68
Old 12-12-2020, 05:28 PM
  #33  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
aroundincircles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,377
Received 127 Likes on 99 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Question:
If the knock sensor gives no readings, would it have any affect on how the engine runs?
Old 12-13-2020, 10:23 AM
  #34  
CF Veteran
 
Saudade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,765
Received 470 Likes on 384 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Well, the knock sensor generates a small electrical signal when it senses knocking. The stronger the intensity, the higher the voltage generated. Once the ECU detects the knock, it will retard the timing until it stops.

I broke mine some years ago jacking up the engine to replace a motor mount. I drove it for years without the sensor until a sharp eyed smog inspector noticed.
Old 12-15-2020, 02:12 PM
  #35  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
aroundincircles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,377
Received 127 Likes on 99 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Gave up and dropped it off at a shop, Owner owns 5 XJs himself... so I felt confident that he at least kinda understand what he's doing.
Old 07-02-2021, 08:56 PM
  #36  
Seasoned Member
 
dmoe69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 468
Received 90 Likes on 77 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I am really interested in what your problem turned out to be. I could make the same video of my instrument cluster. It is currently doing the exact same thing.
Old 07-03-2021, 06:07 AM
  #37  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
aroundincircles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,377
Received 127 Likes on 99 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by dmoe69
I am really interested in what your problem turned out to be. I could make the same video of my instrument cluster. It is currently doing the exact same thing.
shop had it for 4 months and didn’t hardly touch it, so figured nothing out, I’ve messed with it more and still have no clue. It got hot on me, so I gave up till we cool down a bit. I’m still open to ideas, next is timing.
Old 07-05-2021, 08:26 PM
  #38  
Seasoned Member
 
dmoe69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 468
Received 90 Likes on 77 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I sent an update to the troubleshooting I've done on my Jeep earlier today. It was moved to its own thread by the moderators. The thread is titled "Won't Rev"
Old 07-13-2021, 07:15 PM
  #39  
Seasoned Member
 
dmoe69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 468
Received 90 Likes on 77 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I was looking at the values on your second video and two things stand out in relation to the normal values Nick has in his quick start guide. 1st, your ST is low. Ideal is 128. As I understand it, there is not an error that occurs with low ST - just high. There is a post (that I can not locate again) in which Ecomike is trying to resolve a low ST issue with similar symptoms, but not rev limited. 2nd, the IAC value is explained in the latest online quick start manual. Essentially below 128 the IAC is closing (decreasing idle speed), above 128 the IAC is opening (increasing idle speed). I would assume 0 is not an ideal indication. Although I have similar symptoms as you, I have high ST, >255, which does cause a fault.
Old 07-13-2021, 07:58 PM
  #40  
Seasoned Member
 
dmoe69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 468
Received 90 Likes on 77 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Engine miss above 2000 RPM - NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association

Found the post in my history.
Old 07-13-2021, 11:38 PM
  #41  
Member
 
Lordmonk3y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 125
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default

Have you tried putting stock injectors back in? Or adjusting the idle air control valve? If you even can on a renix
Old 07-14-2021, 04:11 PM
  #42  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
aroundincircles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,377
Received 127 Likes on 99 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

I have put stock injectors back in and you cannot adjust the IAC (though I did replace it).
Old 07-14-2021, 04:13 PM
  #43  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
aroundincircles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,377
Received 127 Likes on 99 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by dmoe69

Hmmm... seems like their issue was swapping spark plug wires. and while possible, I don't think that's my issue, I've had spark plug wires, spark plugs, distributer cap, even the cylinder head on and off so many times, I think at some point i would have figured out I had them on wrong and corrected it. and I do follow cruiser's tips.

If I was off one plug all the way around, would it even run?
Old 07-14-2021, 04:26 PM
  #44  
Member
 
Lordmonk3y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 125
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default

Originally Posted by aroundincircles
Hmmm... seems like their issue was swapping spark plug wires. and while possible, I don't think that's my issue, I've had spark plug wires, spark plugs, distributer cap, even the cylinder head on and off so many times, I think at some point i would have figured out I had them on wrong and corrected it. and I do follow cruiser's tips.

If I was off one plug all the way around, would it even run?
Not if you had rotated your plugs no. It would not run. And I'd imagine if two cylinders were swapped and not firing it would feel like more than a misfire.
Old 07-14-2021, 07:25 PM
  #45  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
aroundincircles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,377
Received 127 Likes on 99 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

So......... I was out messing with my jeep just now, and something strange happened... the reading from the TPS went to 0 on my R.E.M., It's basically brand new, but could I have a bad one? it was adjusted correctly, but could it be giving a bad reading to the engine? that wouldn't make sense since it was replaced BECAUSE of this issue. What happens with a bad TPS?


Quick Reply: Renix Missfire over 2k rpm/hitting a cutoff at 2k rpm



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:58 PM.