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#796
No, I don't lick fish.
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
#797
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From: Southern Texas (former AZ & Aus)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
Yes the MGs,Triumphs,cooper and even the Land Rovers were all unreliable. They would nickel and dime you to death. Simple things like master cylinders and wheel cylinders,electric things. Even today the Land Rover is a overpriced pos with a copied 1960s era buick engine! I was an MGB fan for awhile and the only good thing about them was the girl factor.
And the day after that...... because of the speeds it took to get it there in time, Speed limits on the M1 were born. lol. (true statement) So the rest of Britain can thank Jaguar for the first speed limits on their motorways.
#798
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From: Southern Texas (former AZ & Aus)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
We also can't complain about the motors there.... ^^^ where or when do you think our Inline 6's were born?... yep.. the 1960s originally.
#799
I use lucas fuel treatment, transmission fluid, oil treatment, and gear oil. No complaints at all.
The oil additive seems to keep my sloppy timing chain quiet, at least for a few weeks at a time.
I have had great results after using their transmission fluid, and honestly wouldn't recommend anything else on a vehicle with high mileage and tranny issues.
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#800
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From: Southern Texas (former AZ & Aus)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
I use lucas fuel treatment, transmission fluid, oil treatment, and gear oil. No complaints at all.
The oil additive seems to keep my sloppy timing chain quiet, at least for a few weeks at a time.
I have had great results after using their transmission fluid, and honestly wouldn't recommend anything else on a vehicle with high mileage and tranny issues.
#801
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Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 922
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From: Abysmo, NJ
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Yes the MGs,Triumphs,cooper and even the Land Rovers were all unreliable. They would nickel and dime you to death. Simple things like master cylinders and wheel cylinders,electric things. Even today the Land Rover is a overpriced pos with a copied 1960s era buick engine! I was an MGB fan for awhile and the only good thing about them was the girl factor.
Rover actually bought the rights and tooling for the ex-Buick aluminum V8, they didn't copy it. From what I understand it was a decent enough engine, probably the least problematical part of the vehicle. I think though that engine was dropped from new Rover vehicles some years ago, probably for the same reasons the Jeep inline six was dropped - fuel economy and emission mandates.
There was a dark but funny scene in the AMC series Mad Men involving one of the characters and Jaguar's legendary unreliablity.
#802
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From: Florida
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: Golen 4.6L
Yes the MGs,Triumphs,cooper and even the Land Rovers were all unreliable. They would nickel and dime you to death. Simple things like master cylinders and wheel cylinders,electric things. Even today the Land Rover is a overpriced pos with a copied 1960s era buick engine! I was an MGB fan for awhile and the only good thing about them was the girl factor.
And they could be made fast with a proper build. You could buy an MGB and have it track ready for not a whole lot of money. Then you could take it out and run the hell out of it without worrying that you were risking crashing a Porsche. So what if you trashed it? You could just go buy another.
Can you buy a fun sports car with world class handling brand new for less than $20K? I can't think of one. Toyota is trying to develop a new small sports car based on this market, but even though they keep saying it will come in under $20K, I just don't see it happening.
TL;DR Because racecar.
#803
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From: Hacienda Heights
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
The one "additive" from Lucas that I do use on occasion and because I always calculate my mileage, etc. religiously, their injector cleaner does make a difference. I run some through every so many full tank fill ups. Some may call "BS" but when I see actual results consistently that proves it for me.
If anyone knows of a cleaner that does a better job, I'd certainly be willing to give it a go.
If anyone knows of a cleaner that does a better job, I'd certainly be willing to give it a go.
In the marine world there's stuff called Yamaha Ring Free and guys who use it regularly seem to have less carbon issues and cleaner carbs than those who don't. After a bunch of research it appears that Ring Free is similar to Techron but more concentrated, they're both made by Oronite which is a division of Chevron. Normal use is 1oz./10gal. gas and a shock treatment is 1oz./3gallons. Many boat mechanics use it to cure carbon problems for customers and use it in all their own engines to keep them clean. Its effects are really noticeable in the Yamaha 2 strokes with O2 sensors. I inherited my dad's boat with one of these motors and when I pulled the O2 sensor I had to pry it out then use a drill to clear the passages to it, it had just over 500 hrs. He used the first bottle of Ring Free that came with the boat but didn't want to spend the money on this 'snake oil'. Other guys using Ring Free regularly have not had this accumulation. Oil types and operation are all different between different people so there's no way to absolutely prove Ring Free was the reason but I read enough (many hours of research) to be convinced to buy Ring Free. When I have a rough running car and can't find an obvious cause I have the customer run a tank with Techron and it's worked.
#804
No, I don't lick fish.
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
#805
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From: Abysmo, NJ
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
The Jeep 4.0 is an evolution of the AMC inline six that debuted in 1964. Of course there were numerous engineering changes made over the decades, but a Jeep 4.0 will drop right into a Rambler (motor mounts are in the same place) and a "stroker" Jeep six is made by swapping in the crank from an earlier AMC motor.
That engine first saw the light of day in this car, the 1964 Rambler Typhoon:
That engine first saw the light of day in this car, the 1964 Rambler Typhoon:
#806
No, I don't lick fish.
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 11,167
Likes: 21
From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
The Jeep 4.0 is an evolution of the AMC inline six that debuted in 1964. Of course there were numerous engineering changes made over the decades, but a Jeep 4.0 will drop right into a Rambler (motor mounts are in the same place) and a "stroker" Jeep six is made by swapping in the crank from an earlier AMC motor.
That engine first saw the light of day in this car, the 1964 Rambler Typhoon:
That engine first saw the light of day in this car, the 1964 Rambler Typhoon:
Carry on.
#807
No, I don't lick fish.
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 11,167
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Found another interesting article - er well... SERIES of articles on the oil for vintage motors. Includes a lot of interesting information including viscosity degradation matching modern industry standards implemented for higher MPG ratings that the EPA is pushing.
http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/articles.html
You might find it interesting, Ross.
http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/articles.html
You might find it interesting, Ross.
#808
Found another interesting article - er well... SERIES of articles on the oil for vintage motors. Includes a lot of interesting information including viscosity degradation matching modern industry standards implemented for higher MPG ratings that the EPA is pushing.
http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/articles.html
You might find it interesting, Ross.
http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/articles.html
You might find it interesting, Ross.
#809
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From: Hacienda Heights
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I saw something from Blackstone labs a while back that was a compilation of analysis results from several different oils used in a few engines. The results of the comparison basically showed that it made very little difference which oil was used.
There are some cases where a particular engine type is 'harder' on oil and might need something special, but in most engines the oil type makes little difference.
There are some cases where a particular engine type is 'harder' on oil and might need something special, but in most engines the oil type makes little difference.
#810
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Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,379
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From: Florida
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: Golen 4.6L
Found another interesting article - er well... SERIES of articles on the oil for vintage motors. Includes a lot of interesting information including viscosity degradation matching modern industry standards implemented for higher MPG ratings that the EPA is pushing.
http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/articles.html
You might find it interesting, Ross.
http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/articles.html
You might find it interesting, Ross.
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