RPM Comparison
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RPM Comparison
If a V8 is putting out 2000 RPMs and a I4 is putting out 2000 RPMs also, wouldn't they be technically putting out the same power since the cranks are rotating at the same speed (lets keep the engine by itself and away from the rest of the drive train for the sake of the comparison)?
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An easy (but admittedly simplistic) way to visualize this is to imagine a single-cylinder weed-wacker engine spinning the same flywheel at 2000 RPM... It could probably spin it at the same speed as the V8 and I4, but would have way less power... Once a load (such as the weight of the car) is placed on it, the flywheel would stop spinning almost immediately.
You really can't gauge power or torque from RPMs alone: a rubber band can spin a toy propeller 2000 RPM, but the power (both HP and torque) is not even comparable to moving a flywheel with a larger displacement engine.
Hope this helps a bit!
You really can't gauge power or torque from RPMs alone: a rubber band can spin a toy propeller 2000 RPM, but the power (both HP and torque) is not even comparable to moving a flywheel with a larger displacement engine.
Hope this helps a bit!
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If a V8 is putting out 2000 RPMs and a I4 is putting out 2000 RPMs also, wouldn't they be technically putting out the same power since the cranks are rotating at the same speed (lets keep the engine by itself and away from the rest of the drive train for the sake of the comparison)?
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I know this comparison I gave is wrong, but I want to know why. I was just thinking that if two different engines are spinning at the same RPM they are producing the same power also. Do larger engines have larger cranks, and therefore are turning something much larger at the same speed as an engine with a smaller crank (I feel like I am misunderstanding something about torque and displacement here)?
I guess I am also not thinking about the engines when load is added. An engine with a larger displacement will produce more power at the crank and will be able to turn the flywheel much easier than an engine with a smaller displacement correct?
I guess I am also not thinking about the engines when load is added. An engine with a larger displacement will produce more power at the crank and will be able to turn the flywheel much easier than an engine with a smaller displacement correct?
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I know this comparison I gave is wrong, but I want to know why. I was just thinking that if two different engines are spinning at the same RPM they are producing the same power also. Do larger engines have larger cranks, and therefore are turning something much larger at the same speed as an engine with a smaller crank (I feel like I am misunderstanding something about torque and displacement here)?
I guess I am also not thinking about the engines when load is added. An engine with a larger displacement will produce more power at the crank and will be able to turn the flywheel much easier than an engine with a smaller displacement correct?
I guess I am also not thinking about the engines when load is added. An engine with a larger displacement will produce more power at the crank and will be able to turn the flywheel much easier than an engine with a smaller displacement correct?
its displacement and stroke
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think of it like a wagon
two horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
four horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
now start adding weight to the wagon
or going up hill
what wagon is going to be able to carry more weight
or go up a steeper hill
two horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
four horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
now start adding weight to the wagon
or going up hill
what wagon is going to be able to carry more weight
or go up a steeper hill
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think of it like a wagon
two horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
four horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
now start adding weight to the wagon
or going up hill
what wagon is going to be able to carry more weight
or go up a steeper hill
two horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
four horses on level ground can pull a wagon with 5000 lb at 5mph
now start adding weight to the wagon
or going up hill
what wagon is going to be able to carry more weight
or go up a steeper hill
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