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Old 12-11-2008, 10:09 AM
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one thing i give RE for sure is their 5.5" extreme duty kit actually measures out to about 6.5 inches. that way they save warranty issues if it saggs.

i believe it's the same as all their kits, they're about an inch more than stated. bonus
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Originally Posted by 1987XJ
Rustys is pretty lame, the springs are too stiff and the rear sits higher then the front with the kits.
Not if you run it with coilovers!
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Originally Posted by caged
one thing i give RE for sure is their 5.5" extreme duty kit actually measures out to about 6.5 inches. that way they save warranty issues if it saggs.

i believe it's the same as all their kits, they're about an inch more than stated. bonus
You are correct my 3.5 lift rear measures at 4.5" and front 4". Going to add a spacer up front to level it out.
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Originally Posted by tampaviking
I am curious as to how a track bar fails. Was the tie rod too small and barely threaded on. I have used Rustys track bar for a long time with no problems. When I install any parts I always make sure they are safe and in good condition. I dunno I guess I should research the whole story.
LOL me too.
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Originally Posted by okcjeeper
You are correct my 3.5 lift rear measures at 4.5" and front 4". Going to add a spacer up front to level it out.
I like the way the jeep rides/looks with the (_|_) end up a half inch or so... I can't stand seeing them with the rears saggin like my ex.
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Originally Posted by Captain Crunch
So I've searched around a bit, but haven't found a straight up answer. I have priced out both Rusty's and RC 3 in. lift both with full leafs. And the prices are with in $50 including shipping. So which lift is better, and why?

Thanks Matt
I'm very interested in this thread as I'm looking to add a similar amount of lift. I guess we've our research a bit differently though. Why are you limiting yourself to thsoe lifts only? I'd be more interested in learning all of the pro's and con's of all of my options. Sure I may pay a bit more (even if I have to wait 2 months to get the funds), but it would be worth it in the end (at least for me since my XJ must remain a DD first and foremost).

My Reasearch:
Looking at the following link (https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/every-xj-lift-all-read-237/) Kyle has listed all of our options for our lift height. We have the following lifts available:

XJ 3.5" SUPER-RIDE W/REAR SPR (Part #RE6025) for $584.95.
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...d=950747148871

XJ 3.5" SUPER-FLEX W/REAR SPR (Part #RE6025) for $760.95.
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...d=950747148871

Rusty's XJ Cherokee 3" Spring Pack Kit (Part #RK-300SP-XJ) for $438.00.
http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...ode=sus_xj_kit

Rough Country XJ 3" Series II Suspension (Part #670x With Upgraded Rear Susp) for $609.09.
http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_xj_3x.html

Rancho XJ Mid Size w/3". Rear Leaf Springs (Part #x4000 or x4001) for $667.92.
http://www.4wheelonline.com/jeep/Pro...roductId=92003

There are others too (according to Kyle's post), like OME, Pro Comp, Skyjacker, Full Traction, Warrior, and Rock Krawler.

I'm interested in finding out which of these kits really is the best and why (on street, off road, reliability, etc. I'm also interested in knowing if these kits are complete or if you need to buy more junk to make them work). There are a lot of variables and I don't see any reason to limit your search two only two companies so early in the research phase.

Just my humble $.02.

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I hope it's not a thread jack, since it's on the same subject, but I noticed that only Rusty's has the lift/wheel/tire combo available. Pricing doesn't look too bad either. Any verdict on that or should I stick to getting everything separate?
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For those who are considering Rc, GrimusXJ from NAXJA will give you a great deal if you contact him at RC. I got 4 new shocks shipped to me for $100, Grimus suggested different than stock valving based on my driving style and he hit it dead on. Ride is fantastic in all settings.
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The RE lifts are not in the price range with RC and Rusty's because you also need shocks, plus shipping.
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Originally Posted by Captain Crunch
The RE lifts are not in the price range with RC and Rusty's because you also need shocks, plus shipping.
I would put Rusty's and RE in the same category and put RC in the entry level category. I know my long arm kit is beefier than the Rubicon Express kit for the XJ.
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Originally Posted by Captain Crunch
The RE lifts are not in the price range with RC and Rusty's because you also need shocks, plus shipping.
yea youre looking at an easy $950 for a RE 3.5" with quality shocks and leaf packs. i think RC and rustys with shocks is about $500ish
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Originally Posted by Captain Crunch
The RE lifts are not in the price range with RC and Rusty's because you also need shocks, plus shipping.
If you take the RE 3.5 kit and compate it to the Rusty's 3" and RC 3" and take out everything but springs and then add shocks you are paying the same. RC and Rusty's 3" which is clsoe in height to the RE 3.5 only comes with spings and shocks nothing more. RE 3.5 comes with springs, brake lines, end links, LCA's so add it all up and the price is about the same.

I payed just at $700 to my door for the RE 3.5" SuperRide with 4 RE shocks and the RE 1600 trackbar..
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Originally Posted by okcjeeper
If you take the RE 3.5 kit and compate it to the Rusty's 3" and RC 3" and take out everything but springs and then add shocks you are paying the same. RC and Rusty's 3" which is clsoe in height to the RE 3.5 only comes with spings and shocks nothing more. RE 3.5 comes with springs, brake lines, end links, LCA's so add it all up and the price is about the same.

I payed just at $700 to my door for the RE 3.5" SuperRide with 4 RE shocks and the RE 1600 trackbar..
you went super ride? hmmm im contemplating that and the super flex.. considering i wheel once every 3 months and i usually do no more than a blue trail here and there. hmm how you like it? pm me if you want lol
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Originally Posted by okcjeeper
If you take the RE 3.5 kit and compate it to the Rusty's 3" and RC 3" and take out everything but springs and then add shocks you are paying the same. RC and Rusty's 3" which is clsoe in height to the RE 3.5 only comes with spings and shocks nothing more. RE 3.5 comes with springs, brake lines, end links, LCA's so add it all up and the price is about the same.

I payed just at $700 to my door for the RE 3.5" SuperRide with 4 RE shocks and the RE 1600 trackbar..
Where did you buy this from, thats not a bad dea
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trackbars from Rusty's fail on three different accounts, and you're correct...they're the plain jane trackbars, not his HD ones.

they are;
1. TRE thread failure...he makes them trackbar too short for the lifts he sells it with, so to set your trackbar, you end up with around 3/8" of thread stuck in there...not enough, it tears out.
2. bent trackbar...I've watched one compress and bend in half, only thing that kept the jeep from going over were the rocks it hit as a result.
3. the metal breaks and stretches in the lower bushing area, ovaling out the hole for the bushing, and pretty much breaking the trackbar right off.

there's enough problems with the lift that I don't want it. not to mention poor customer service. I get great service from RC, but I only talk to Jason


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