sagging leafs
#1
sagging leafs
Hey everybody
My leaf springs arent looking to good so I want to replace them. I was thinking of a couple options and would like to get some input. I have a 98 stock hight and everything is original with the suspention. My main use for it is a spare, hunting, putt around town, camping, and snow vehicle(since I am required to come to work no matter how bad the weather is).
My first option: Replace with standard height leafs and shackles from jcwhitney. Now if I do this should I just anticipate cutting out the bolts? I hear it is a common problem with the bolt rusting/seizing into the leaf spring sleave. Also where would I get replacement bolts? Dealer item?
My second option: I was throwing around the idea of adding a 2" budget boost. Obviously spacers up front but the back I was thinking shackles or bastard packs. If I do this Im leaning towards bastard packs just because I wont have to mess with the leaf spring bolts. My concern with this is if I put the dakota or s10 leafs under a weak main leaf would the whole thing eventurally start to sag again?
Tools and automotive repair experiance is nothing new to me. So any input or other options anybody has done I would appreciate it. Thanks!
My leaf springs arent looking to good so I want to replace them. I was thinking of a couple options and would like to get some input. I have a 98 stock hight and everything is original with the suspention. My main use for it is a spare, hunting, putt around town, camping, and snow vehicle(since I am required to come to work no matter how bad the weather is).
My first option: Replace with standard height leafs and shackles from jcwhitney. Now if I do this should I just anticipate cutting out the bolts? I hear it is a common problem with the bolt rusting/seizing into the leaf spring sleave. Also where would I get replacement bolts? Dealer item?
My second option: I was throwing around the idea of adding a 2" budget boost. Obviously spacers up front but the back I was thinking shackles or bastard packs. If I do this Im leaning towards bastard packs just because I wont have to mess with the leaf spring bolts. My concern with this is if I put the dakota or s10 leafs under a weak main leaf would the whole thing eventurally start to sag again?
Tools and automotive repair experiance is nothing new to me. So any input or other options anybody has done I would appreciate it. Thanks!
#2
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From: cedar rapids, ia
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
on my xj/xj bastard pack the main leaf from donor (cut just where it starts to bend) staightened out my saggy main. pretty sure it'll help your main leaf out and give u some lift.
#3
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From: Mid-Atlantic
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I-6 <200k
I got heavy duty Crown leafs from Quadratec.
They are not stiffer, they just have a 5th leaf for towing.
They add 2" of height over stock & they are $99 each.
The standard rate springs are only $75, $50 less for a pair.
My total for shackles, bushings, U-bolts & HDsprings was under $400 shipped.
You can get HD coils for the front to even it out for ~$160.
My two cents. I really like the value vs "lift kits".
They are not stiffer, they just have a 5th leaf for towing.
They add 2" of height over stock & they are $99 each.
The standard rate springs are only $75, $50 less for a pair.
My total for shackles, bushings, U-bolts & HDsprings was under $400 shipped.
You can get HD coils for the front to even it out for ~$160.
My two cents. I really like the value vs "lift kits".
#4
I got heavy duty Crown leafs from Quadratec.
They are not stiffer, they just have a 5th leaf for towing.
They add 2" of height over stock & they are $99 each.
The standard rate springs are only $75, $50 less for a pair.
My total for shackles, bushings, U-bolts & HDsprings was under $400 shipped.
You can get HD coils for the front to even it out for ~$160.
My two cents. I really like the value vs "lift kits".
They are not stiffer, they just have a 5th leaf for towing.
They add 2" of height over stock & they are $99 each.
The standard rate springs are only $75, $50 less for a pair.
My total for shackles, bushings, U-bolts & HDsprings was under $400 shipped.
You can get HD coils for the front to even it out for ~$160.
My two cents. I really like the value vs "lift kits".
#5
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From: Mid-Atlantic
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I-6 <200k
IDK where to buy the bolts. I know u gotta cut them most of the time. I'll check my FSM for bolt specs. Plenty of ppl on here know this stuff. I gave a good shop $275 for cutting the old bolts, pressing the bushings and installing the springs. They had a bunch of rust on their floor from my old springs & hardware. lol...
I don't recall them mentioning obtaining bolts.
These guys tried to find my issue that continues to elude me. They wouldn't charge me w/o finding something to fix. I got my 235/57/15 tires & had them install them springs to give them some business since I don't have all the gear required. All you need is some kind of saw that I can't remember the name of right now. Good luck & enjoy your truck.
I don't recall them mentioning obtaining bolts.
These guys tried to find my issue that continues to elude me. They wouldn't charge me w/o finding something to fix. I got my 235/57/15 tires & had them install them springs to give them some business since I don't have all the gear required. All you need is some kind of saw that I can't remember the name of right now. Good luck & enjoy your truck.
#6
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From: Mid-Atlantic
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I-6 <200k
I noticed the 3 grades.
The medium duty packs on Q'tec are $150.
Pricing is based on demand and MD is a rare request.
A HD pack is a real suspension instead of wedging your parts farther from the ground and only $100.
I'm up to a quarter's worth now...
The medium duty packs on Q'tec are $150.
Pricing is based on demand and MD is a rare request.
A HD pack is a real suspension instead of wedging your parts farther from the ground and only $100.
I'm up to a quarter's worth now...
#7
how long have you been running the HD springs for?
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#9
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From: Mid-Atlantic
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I-6 <200k
Originally Posted by bambam0417
how long have you been running the HD springs for?
#10
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From: Mid-Atlantic
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I-6 <200k
The write up in the tutorial/how to section will give you all the info you'll need to remove/install, including sources for the bolts & what saw to use.
Rock Auto has the bolts for $5 each.
Rock Auto has the bolts for $5 each.
Last edited by Joe Green; 12-18-2011 at 10:58 AM. Reason: addn'l info
#11
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From: Mid-Atlantic
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I-6 <200k
#12
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From: Staten Island NY
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I have the HD leaves also, ride nice and raised it up a touch. Get the HD coils also..mine is raked because I used stock ..gonna change that soon.
# for the springs http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...0707&submit=Go
# for the springs http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...0707&submit=Go
#14
Thanks guys for all the info and the bonus of pictures! I think Im going to go with the HD rear springs, New stock height shackles, budget boost spacers up front, and probably change all the shocks. Any opinions on some good shocks?
#15
Check out the write up. I forget off the top of my head who did it but it was very good information.