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Old 03-16-2016, 04:51 PM
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Dorman factory replacements with bushings installed $99 each on amazon. Or superlift 2.5" $116 each on amazon.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
If you're planning on moving and using your jeep in the move, I wouldn't suggest lifting. Think about the increased drag from sticking the box higher up. You already trimmed for 31" tires on stock suspension so it will look funny with 3" and 31s. If I were you I would just get stock replacement springs. Almost any lift kit you get wont be complete. Very few come with extended brake lines, track bars, and control arms. I wouldn't recommend a tcase drop because it can mess a lot up (don't know if it's related, but after mine having a tcase drop my engine and trans mounts were ruined, the rms started leaking, the trans dipstick was pushed into the firewall, and it was the first thing I drug offroad.) replaced my tcase drop with an sye. My 3" rough country lift sucks, the springs are too short so there isn't any flex (the shackles are vertical) I had to buy shackle relocators. The bushings are worn out, and the leafs are flat already. I'd go with hd stock packs or a non-cheap lift.
Yeah my only concern is that with the 31" tires even HD leafs won't always prevent it from rubbing the wheel wells. I'm really going back and forth on this one...
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Yeah my only concern is that with the 31" tires even HD leafs won't always prevent it from rubbing the wheel wells. I'm really going back and forth on this one...
bumpstop, no spring will keep tires from rubbing. I rubbed at 3" before bumpstops.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
bumpstop, no spring will keep tires from rubbing. I rubbed at 3" before bumpstops.
Thats true, but I think going beyond what OP wants maybe.

I have 31s, with a 2.5" Bastard pack, and I havent rubbed yet. Sure, during flex, without the swaybar you're gonna rub, but on the highway hitting a bump with passengers, no way.

I also dont think 3" lift with 31" tires would look funny!!



31s and 2.5" lift
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Thats true, but I think going beyond what OP wants maybe. I have 31s, with a 2.5" Bastard pack, and I havent rubbed yet. Sure, during flex, without the swaybar you're gonna rub, but on the highway hitting a bump with passengers, no way. I also dont think 3" lift with 31" tires would look funny!! 31s and 2.5" lift
it would look funny because he trimmed to fit 31s stock height. Without trimming it would look fine. That's what I run. Also if you haven't rubbed with the tires that close I don't know how you drive... I rubbed with a 3" lift before I trimmed my bumper caps (when I still had stock bumpers) now I can do pretty good bumpstopped

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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
it would look funny because he trimmed to fit 31s stock height. Without trimming it would look fine. That's what I run. Also if you haven't rubbed with the tires that close I don't know how you drive... I rubbed with a 3" lift before I trimmed my bumper caps (when I still had stock bumpers) now I can do pretty good bumpstopped

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I'm moving back to the southeast from CO (sad day, I know), so not much rock crawling in my future. My main concern isn't flex as much as it is being able to load down the back of the Jeep with crap and hitching up a Uhaul without bottoming out on every bump for 1800 miles. If you guys think I'll be good with new leafs and bump stops then I'll pull the trigger on that and put the $300 saved to good use. The only other thing is that if my leafs are this shot and I'm going to be replacing the shocks and front springs soon, it seems like I might just be better off with a cheap 3" lift.

Also, would these be decent? http://www.quadratec.com/products/52422_01.htm
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Originally Posted by volaticus
I'm moving back to the southeast from CO (sad day, I know), so not much rock crawling in my future. My main concern isn't flex as much as it is being able to load down the back of the Jeep with crap and hitching up a Uhaul without bottoming out on every bump for 1800 miles. If you guys think I'll be good with new leafs and bump stops then I'll pull the trigger on that and put the $300 saved to good use. The only other thing is that if my leafs are this shot and I'm going to be replacing the shocks and front springs soon, it seems like I might just be better off with a cheap 3" lift. Also, would these be decent? http://www.quadratec.com/products/52422_01.htm
you have to flex to the point where the tire is just about to rub then measure and see how long you need. I'm in the southeast and I flex all the time I don't know what you're talking about.
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I have carried heavy loads in the rear of my XJ everyday about 200# or so with no sag of notice with my 3" lift of almost 3 1/2 yrs now. The last 2 of them using the same leafs and coils for a 4 1/2" lift


The 3" kit is a basic Rustys 3" full leaf/coil/shock/hardware package all made in NA not China like a lot of the others. This package is very reasonable in cost and high quality leafs and coils included.


ALL "entry level lifts" come with the cheap white body shocks and a good set will be a big help to ride both on/off road later on if you wish, I ran the ones that came with this kit for a year before I upgraded them.

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Did Old Man Emu replace their 2" leafs with 3.5"? If so, then my course of action will be to go with the Dorman 929-301 and some new u bolts. My bump stops are shot so I'm going to replace those with a junkyard pair and add an extender with a piece of 1" square tube steel. Is there a place online for particularly good U bolts, or will O'Reillys have what I need?
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Originally Posted by volaticus
Did Old Man Emu replace their 2" leafs with 3.5"? If so, then my course of action will be to go with the Dorman 929-301 and some new u bolts. My bump stops are shot so I'm going to replace those with a junkyard pair and add an extender with a piece of 1" square tube steel. Is there a place online for particularly good U bolts, or will O'Reillys have what I need?
I would avoid junkyard bumpstops. They'll be toast. Just buy new they're cheap anyway. $20 for those bumpstops you posted a link to. Also they're already extended.
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Hmmm..... Let's see.....

$20 to order some new ones online, which are delivered to my door, and are ready to go...

Versus ... what, 5 bucks to make a trip to the junkyard to wrench some old, rusted, and worn out bumpstops off a Jeep, take them home, and modify them?


That's an easy decision! Junkyard here I come! I'll save fifteen bucks!
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
Hmmm..... Let's see..... $20 to order some new ones online, which are delivered to my door, and are ready to go... Versus ... what, 5 bucks to make a trip to the junkyard to wrench some old, rusted, and worn out bumpstops off a Jeep, take them home, and modify them? That's an easy decision! Junkyard here I come! I'll save fifteen bucks!
well if the junkyard ones looked like the ones that I took off my jeep he'll be buying another set first time he hit them. Would cost me probably $12 for the junkyard ones not including the gas to drive 30 minutes across town to get to the junkyard. I don't know guess it's just me.
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The OME CS0334RB leafs with one leaf removed will net you about 2.25" above stock. Removing a leaf is per their instructions and completely fine. You can also use the OME 2934 (ZJ V8) springs for 2.25" above stock in the front. Plus all the other parts you'd want to do a full, complete lift. Expect to pay $1,700 or more however.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
well if the junkyard ones looked like the ones that I took off my jeep he'll be buying another set first time he hit them. Would cost me probably $12 for the junkyard ones not including the gas to drive 30 minutes across town to get to the junkyard. I don't know guess it's just me.
Cool as much as I enjoy DIY and saving money, sounds like new will be the way to go in this case. And this is probably a dumb question but whats the easiest way to max flex the rear to measure what bump stops I need? Just jack up one side of the axle till the tire hits wheel well?

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The OME CS0334RB leafs with one leaf removed will net you about 2.25" above stock. Removing a leaf is per their instructions and completely fine. You can also use the OME 2934 (ZJ V8) springs for 2.25" above stock in the front. Plus all the other parts you'd want to do a full, complete lift. Expect to pay $1,700 or more however.
I'm gettin into full on lift territory at that point and definitely outside my budget. Question on the Dorman ones before I pull the trigger though. I have a rear bumper tire carrier with jerry cans and hijack, and I also pull a trailer pretty often. I know Quadratec has some leafs that are considered heavy duty for these applications. Are the Dorman ones I posted heavy duty and will they stand up to those loads? At the end of the day, I'm just trying to avoid something that will sag immediately and put me back at square one.
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Originally Posted by volaticus
Cool as much as I enjoy DIY and saving money, sounds like new will be the way to go in this case. And this is probably a dumb question but whats the easiest way to max flex the rear to measure what bump stops I need? Just jack up one side of the axle till the tire hits wheel well? I'm gettin into full on lift territory at that point and definitely outside my budget. Question on the Dorman ones before I pull the trigger though. I have a rear bumper tire carrier with jerry cans and hijack, and I also pull a trailer pretty often. I know Quadratec has some leafs that are considered heavy duty for these applications. Are the Dorman ones I posted heavy duty and will they stand up to those loads? At the end of the day, I'm just trying to avoid something that will sag immediately and put me back at square one.
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