Screws
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Screws
Anybody know a source, in addition to the junk yard, where those long stainless steel (?) screws for the front amber corner light covers can be had? Missing one.
Also, that screw for the body ground (body side) from the battery. Anybody know the screw dimensions/thread pitch and if it can be had in stainless?
Also, that screw for the body ground (body side) from the battery. Anybody know the screw dimensions/thread pitch and if it can be had in stainless?
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318SixPack (11-26-2019)
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Ace hardware usually has a ton of great stainless options.
Unfortunately, sizing can be a pain - I usually try to take one of the old fasteners into the store and just match it up.
Unfortunately, sizing can be a pain - I usually try to take one of the old fasteners into the store and just match it up.
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In other words, fuggedabout the stock screw! It's a lame setup! Upgrade!
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The ground screw may be the same as the license plate screws.
https://www.google.com/search?q=stai...plate%20screws
https://www.google.com/search?q=stai...plate%20screws
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318SixPack (11-28-2019)
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Actually I found both a ground screw and a rear plate screw. The ground is more of a sharp point self tapper. They look pretty close though. The stainless plate screws I buy at either NAPA or the local hardware store.
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Ground screw:
Found #14 3/4" at Ace Hardware, sold loose $0.40 each. Did not feel like it followed the threads of the steel/zinc screw that came from the factory, and they looked close, not exact, but seems sturdy in there.
Now to figure out that engine to body ground strap fastener and replace that thing with a 2 AWG woven, tinned copper 13"-ish strap.
Rural King had a box or 26 for $9, but seems like Ace is the better deal if you don't need a bunch.
Found #14 3/4" at Ace Hardware, sold loose $0.40 each. Did not feel like it followed the threads of the steel/zinc screw that came from the factory, and they looked close, not exact, but seems sturdy in there.
Now to figure out that engine to body ground strap fastener and replace that thing with a 2 AWG woven, tinned copper 13"-ish strap.
Rural King had a box or 26 for $9, but seems like Ace is the better deal if you don't need a bunch.
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If you are talking about the one on the bolt near the dipstick, it wouldn't hurt to upgrade, but there's vibration to consider. I would go with a large braided strap, rather than a cable.
Remember some: basics:
- A "ground" is nothing more than a path to complete the circuit back to the battery. We borrow the vehicle's body and frame because it's easy and cheap. We could run complete wires instead, and never connect anything to the body or frame., but that would be expensive and bulky. Electrically there is no difference. (Except that our usual method is more likely to have corrosion problems.)
- Any current that flows from the engine to the body must return to the battery via that dinky cable you just re-grounded. A 2 AWG cable to feed an 8 gauge doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
- Your main engine ground is the one from the battery to the to plate near the coil. THAT is the one that needs to be upgraded, and you have already done that. All other engine grounds are just making sure that the body and engine are well bonded.
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I do not have a grounding strap on the dip stick mount stud. All four of those wires are grounded to it individually now. Used to have a copper grounding strap flopping around there from repairing the factory version several times.
Grounding strap to the firewall/dash to engine is the original. A bigger one won't hurt and looks kinda spiffy. Plus, if another ground starts going bad it will take up the slack. Looks like that one is about 13" long or so. It is the stock, tinned copper (?) braided strap, I am looking for a grounding strap to replace it with.
On the battery to body screw, it felt like it cut new threads which should be clean as freshly cut threads. However, after having the original self tapping screw in and out a few times, those threads should have been clean too. It looks like it grounds from the grommet to the bare metal of the body, where it was cleaned up when I did the battery connection replacement last weekend anyway. The anti-seize in the threads should not affect the ground between stock grommet teeth and body.
Your main engine ground is the one from the battery to the to plate near the coil. THAT is the one that needs to be upgraded, and you have already done that. All other engine grounds are just making sure that the body and engine are well bonded.
Just saw at Rural King they have the right length in red 4 AWG. Need to snag one of those instead of the too long one I have stuffed in there.
Grounding strap to the firewall/dash to engine is the original. A bigger one won't hurt and looks kinda spiffy. Plus, if another ground starts going bad it will take up the slack. Looks like that one is about 13" long or so. It is the stock, tinned copper (?) braided strap, I am looking for a grounding strap to replace it with.
On the battery to body screw, it felt like it cut new threads which should be clean as freshly cut threads. However, after having the original self tapping screw in and out a few times, those threads should have been clean too. It looks like it grounds from the grommet to the bare metal of the body, where it was cleaned up when I did the battery connection replacement last weekend anyway. The anti-seize in the threads should not affect the ground between stock grommet teeth and body.
Your main engine ground is the one from the battery to the to plate near the coil. THAT is the one that needs to be upgraded, and you have already done that. All other engine grounds are just making sure that the body and engine are well bonded.
Just saw at Rural King they have the right length in red 4 AWG. Need to snag one of those instead of the too long one I have stuffed in there.
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Grounding strap to the firewall/dash to engine is the original. A bigger one won't hurt and looks kinda spiffy. Plus, if another ground starts going bad it will take up the slack. Looks like that one is about 13" long or so. It is the stock, tinned copper (?) braided strap, I am looking for a grounding strap to replace it with.
Your main engine ground is the one from the battery to the to plate near the coil. THAT is the one that needs to be upgraded, and you have already done that. All other engine grounds are just making sure that the body and engine are well bonded.
Just saw at Rural King they have the right length in red 4 AWG. Need to snag one of those instead of the too long one I have stuffed in there.
Just saw at Rural King they have the right length in red 4 AWG. Need to snag one of those instead of the too long one I have stuffed in there.
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