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Old 07-27-2008, 01:32 PM
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so it would be better to put a AAL rather than a shackle?
im getting alot of good info but i never really got a answer,
Whats better for a 2" lift a shackle or short AAL?
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
That may just be the most confusing scentence on the internet today.please explain.
yea i didnt get that either. but then again i dont want my jeep to break down becouse of a shackle
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Originally Posted by usarmy0101
so it would be better to put a AAL rather than a shackle?
im getting alot of good info but i never really got a answer,
Whats better for a 2" lift a shackle or short AAL?

Delete the idea of a short AAL all-together.... A long AAL is exactly the same amount of work, and yields much better results...
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yea i understand but what i have on my hand is the lift kit shown a few pages back and a option to get a 2" AAL for $50
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also keep in mind im a daily drive and dont do any hard core off roading just a few local trails that i am able to do stock


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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
That may just be the most confusing scentence on the internet today.please explain.

Not if you have had it happen to you....
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Originally Posted by whowey
Not if you have had it happen to you....
i dont want it to happen thats why im trying to figure out whats better in my situation the lift shown earlier or a short AAL
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Originally Posted by usarmy0101
yea i understand but what i have on my hand is the lift kit shown a few pages back and a option to get a 2" AAL for $50

I understand that. But would you rather do the lift once right, or a couple of times to fix the problems? A short AAL is HARD on the stock springs. Like the others have said, there have been many instances of stock springs warping or cracking right where a short AAL ends at do to its stiffness. A long AAL won't do those things do to the length of the AAL itself.

I had a Rusty's 2" long AAL on the blue Jeep posted in the rig pics thread. The AAL itself was only half an inch shorter than the main spring in the factory pack. I really never had any sagging problems in the 2 years I owned it. Yes, the ride was significantly rougher than stock. But I bought the jeep to be used as a stop-gap between the family car and a full-fledged pick-up, so utility was more important than ride.

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so if i install the shackle lift how long do you think it will last€?
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Originally Posted by whowey
Not if you have had it happen to you....
then maybe you can explain to me what "The torque of an off camber flex with extended shackles may leave you stranded." means
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SO i take it the shackle would last longer
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usarmy0101 IMO yes...My thoughts are this you have shackles they will work for your application. You have no plans of any hardcore offroading so I would use em. Mine work just fine and so on.. AAL IMHO is not worth the money or time but that's just me..So if I were you I'd just install the kit you got and move along..
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Originally Posted by okcjeeper
usarmy0101 IMO yes...My thoughts are this you have shackles they will work for your application. You have no plans of any hardcore offroading so I would use em. Mine work just fine and so on.. AAL IMHO is not worth the money or time but that's just me..So if I were you I'd just install the kit you got and move along..
okcjeeper thanks alot and i love reading everyones different point of veiws and after reading this i will install this kit i should start installing it next weekend i just wanted some research done before i started!
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Originally Posted by okcjeeper
Yes they will fit the rim but at 2" you might have to do some fender trimming for 31" tires...If you plan on staying at 2" of lift I'd get 30's myself... I am going to be running 30" tires on an RE 3.5 lift..
Get the 31s, you'll be glad you did, IMHO.
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Another vote for 31s.


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