steering help all over the road, w/lift and iroks
#17
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From: cape cod ma.
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 i6
do you have a bar going from the box to the passenger side of the frame?? if not buy a steering box brace kit or you may need to have the unibody braced up with plate
#21
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From: Rio Rancho NM
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I haven't looked at the jeep steering box yet but you can tighten on some, if there is free play in the steering wheel, look at the top of the box, if there is a nut, maybe 5/8" locking what looks like a flat head screw, hold the screw with a screwdriver then loosen the locknut, tighten the screw a little bit at a time while stopping to check the amount of play. Take almost all the play out, tighten the locknut and see. It's a stop-gap measure, will get you by til you can get another box. Just be careful, you can over tighten that worm gear (screw) to the point that the box will lock. So test it turning limit to limit before driving it.
#22
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From: Northern Ontario, Canada
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i don't think a 98 box is adjustable.
but, have someone wiggle the steering wheel back and forth through the play and just enough for the wheels to wiggle while you're under the front looking at everything for excessive movement.
focus on your steering box, it is possible your frame is cracked at the steering box mounting bolts.
also, those iroks are designed to be under inflated, otherwise they will crown and you will be all over the road.
i drive mine with about 12 psi for the road, and it feels fine, more air will make it difficult to drive. i have 36 inch bias ply iroks.
but, have someone wiggle the steering wheel back and forth through the play and just enough for the wheels to wiggle while you're under the front looking at everything for excessive movement.
focus on your steering box, it is possible your frame is cracked at the steering box mounting bolts.
also, those iroks are designed to be under inflated, otherwise they will crown and you will be all over the road.
i drive mine with about 12 psi for the road, and it feels fine, more air will make it difficult to drive. i have 36 inch bias ply iroks.
#23
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From: nebraska
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i don't think a 98 box is adjustable.
but, have someone wiggle the steering wheel back and forth through the play and just enough for the wheels to wiggle while you're under the front looking at everything for excessive movement.
focus on your steering box, it is possible your frame is cracked at the steering box mounting bolts.
also, those iroks are designed to be under inflated, otherwise they will crown and you will be all over the road.
i drive mine with about 12 psi for the road, and it feels fine, more air will make it difficult to drive. i have 36 inch bias ply iroks.
but, have someone wiggle the steering wheel back and forth through the play and just enough for the wheels to wiggle while you're under the front looking at everything for excessive movement.
focus on your steering box, it is possible your frame is cracked at the steering box mounting bolts.
also, those iroks are designed to be under inflated, otherwise they will crown and you will be all over the road.
i drive mine with about 12 psi for the road, and it feels fine, more air will make it difficult to drive. i have 36 inch bias ply iroks.
Well thats what i wondering about the tires, iv never had bias plys, so i dont know how much they affect driving. iv been debating on selling them all day.
#25
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From: nebraska
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
is it easy to post pics on here?
i also just went out and had my son move the steering wheel while i watched the gearbox, and the input shaft will move prob 15 deg both ways and the output shaft wont even move.
i also just went out and had my son move the steering wheel while i watched the gearbox, and the input shaft will move prob 15 deg both ways and the output shaft wont even move.
#28
The tires came up quite a bit here and I have no idea why. I have ran bias tires quite a bit and still do on one of my rigs and they run like a dream on the road. If your dream is loud. Seriously though the only down fall to bias tire is how loud they are. They do not effect steering! However if you are not use to a big tire on a small rim there is a difference in that. Its a delicate balance but the more sidewall you have the more wiggle room you have. With no sway bar its hard to get use to big tires. A sway bar would help out alot. However back to bias tires. There bigest advantage is that the theads and not made of more restrictive steel that when aired down can pinch on obstacles and ruin a tire. They have nylon more flexible and doesn't pinch when aired down. The biggest difference yet making bias tires the best off road tire is how the threads are woven. Radials are woven in a cris cross pattern were bias are not. The bias tires nylon threads that do not cris cross make them able to mold around objects better giving all around better off road performance. So if you are a mall crawler you want radials. Clear on that people who do not no the difference!
#29
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From: nebraska
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
The tires came up quite a bit here and I have no idea why. I have ran bias tires quite a bit and still do on one of my rigs and they run like a dream on the road. If your dream is loud. Seriously though the only down fall to bias tire is how loud they are. They do not effect steering! However if you are not use to a big tire on a small rim there is a difference in that. Its a delicate balance but the more sidewall you have the more wiggle room you have. With no sway bar its hard to get use to big tires. A sway bar would help out alot. However back to bias tires. There bigest advantage is that the theads and not made of more restrictive steel that when aired down can pinch on obstacles and ruin a tire. They have nylon more flexible and doesn't pinch when aired down. The biggest difference yet making bias tires the best off road tire is how the threads are woven. Radials are woven in a cris cross pattern were bias are not. The bias tires nylon threads that do not cris cross make them able to mold around objects better giving all around better off road performance. So if you are a mall crawler you want radials. Clear on that people who do not no the difference!
ok the only thing left is camber and sway bar and gearbox.