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Old 10-26-2009 | 09:13 PM
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hello there i just rec. picked up an 01 cherokee in mit condition off a friend in need of money for $1000. its amazing i already took it wheelin and it works amazing, but heres the problem. the jeep has a 2" spacer kit on it right now, and i just purchased the rough country 3" suspension lift with the add a leaf and came with 4 new shocks. is it ok to run the 3" suspension lift with the spacer kit ? and if so will i need to change anything? like brackets? pitman arms? steering stabilizer? track bar? transfer case drop?
Old 10-26-2009 | 09:28 PM
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put it this way..... a 3" lift for a DD is ok, not really anything to change... 4.5 and more and you need DP arm, drop t-case setup or sye, longer brake lines, longer lower control arms for the front (don't bother with drop brackets) possibly a longer reard-shaft...... your would need to either cut or adjust your e-brake cable... you would also need an adjustable track bar......
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My buddy has a 2000 and has done the same thing . He didnt change anything else and has been fine for over a year now.
Old 10-26-2009 | 09:34 PM
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so he has a 200 cherokee with a 3" suspension lift and a 2" spacer kit and didnt need to change anything? and your 100% about that because this is my day to day jeep and has to last me
Old 10-26-2009 | 09:36 PM
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My buddy has a 2000 and has done the same thing . He didnt change anything else and has been fine for over a year now.
he must not wheel to often then cuz a 2" spacer and a 3" lift is obviosly over 4.5" and i don't care who you are or what you do but if you run a 4.5" lift with stock length break lines... they will crack and break ask anybody on here........ same goes for running a stock t-bar and stock lower control arms.. it just does not perform well
Old 10-26-2009 | 09:42 PM
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what is a t-bar? and which on would i need and where do i but it? where do i get longer brakelines? and where do i get bigger control arms, and what size do i need? im kinda an idiot when it comes to this
Old 10-26-2009 | 09:49 PM
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Im running that exact same set up on my jeep.

Take it from me this is what you NEED.

Longer rear brake line
Straiten the front brake lines
Maybe a T case drop (mine needed it)
axle shims (optional but a good idea im running 6 degree)
LCA's
adj. trackbar (the RC one is very nice)

that should do it you can always expand but thats the minimum
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this is one way to fix the front brake lines "extend them" jsut unbolt the factory star bit... and move the braket toward the specified location
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also for the rear just order a rear soft brake line... and then its a direct swap out.... make sure you blead your brakes after swapping it out
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t-bar is a track bar... its what keeps the axle centered while articulating.... once you lift the front of your jeep (passed 4" should get a longer adjsutable track-bar) if you run the stock track-bar on a 4" lift or more your axle will not be centered under the front of your jeep and the steering will be unstable causing "death-wobble" ( a very bad shaking inccident that will occur when the proper or an efficient setup is not used for steering with your lift

you can find all these things on basically any offroad manufacture site Rough Country, Rusty's offroad. BDS..... everyone has their own preferences
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Originally Posted by That Jeep Guy XJMJ
4.5 and more and you need DP arm, drop t-case setup or sye, ......
i have a 4.5 and havnet gotten any of that and iv been perfectly fine with it my DD
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Rough Country has a sweet steel braided rear brake line for like 35 bucks i have it and its one beefy brake line
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Originally Posted by That Jeep Guy XJMJ
put it this way..... a 3" lift for a DD is ok, not really anything to change... 4.5 and more and you need DP arm, drop t-case setup or sye, longer brake lines, longer lower control arms for the front (don't bother with drop brackets) possibly a longer reard-shaft...... your would need to either cut or adjust your e-brake cable... you would also need an adjustable track bar......
You do not need a Drop pitman arm until you reach 6"+ of lift. You do not need longer brake lines, simply relocate them. E-brake cable will be fine, just adjust it as needed. You can relocate your stock track-bar buy drilling a new hole 1/4" to the right of the stock hole.

I do however agree that a t-case drop may be needed. (I had vibes)

And what is wrong with drop brackets? I don't see any problem with them... what is it that is so bad about them?
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Originally Posted by xjkidd86
hello there i just rec. picked up an 01 cherokee in mit condition off a friend in need of money for $1000. its amazing i already took it wheelin and it works amazing, but heres the problem. the jeep has a 2" spacer kit on it right now, and i just purchased the rough country 3" suspension lift with the add a leaf and came with 4 new shocks. is it ok to run the 3" suspension lift with the spacer kit ? and if so will i need to change anything? like brackets? pitman arms? steering stabilizer? track bar? transfer case drop?
If you combine those kits, the shocks will be too short and you will eventually ruin them, or the mounts. Just stick with the three inch.
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Originally Posted by xjkidd86
hello there i just rec. picked up an 01 cherokee in mit condition off a friend in need of money for $1000. its amazing i already took it wheelin and it works amazing, but heres the problem. the jeep has a 2" spacer kit on it right now, and i just purchased the rough country 3" suspension lift with the add a leaf and came with 4 new shocks. is it ok to run the 3" suspension lift with the spacer kit ? and if so will i need to change anything? like brackets? pitman arms? steering stabilizer? track bar? transfer case drop?
Before you put the add-a-leaf kit on search this website. Not many people have much good to say about them. Full leaf packs are the only way to go. You can buy kits from all the major manufacturers that come with everything you need. If you call a good lift manufacturer they will walk you through the whole process. Didn't whomever you bought the RC kit from give you any information?
If you don't mind me asking...How much did you pay for that add-a-leaf kit?
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Old 10-27-2009 | 03:08 AM
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if you already bought the add a leaf its ok! they will start to sag in about 8-12 months. in a year you should replace them. tons of sites sell just the rear leaf packs and there about 100 dollars a pair. 3 inches is fine for a DD. you'll want the t-case drop. just do it while ur jeep is on jacks and you wont have to deal with it later!
Old 10-27-2009 | 02:52 PM
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all you guys are a huge help and maybe one day ill se yall on the trail



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