Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Swaping D35 for D44

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-24-2009, 05:02 PM
  #1  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
Desertfox1023's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 2,340
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Year: 1994...mostly...
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L I6 HO, Lot's of Bolt Ons
Default Swaping D35 for D44

I'm swapping my 94 XJ's D35 for an 87 XJ D44. I have around 4" of lift and a 1" TC Drop. I have no vibrations with my stock XJ 30" Drive shaft. The D44 Drive shaft for the same setup (aw4 & 231) requires a 29 5/8" drive shaft stock. The D44 drive shaft is shot though so I'm thinking of just resuing the D35 drive shaft since it's in good shape. I shouldn't get any vibs with using the D35 drive shaft correct? If anything the extra length in the drive shaft should help right? Also will it be a bolt on affair for the drive shaft or does the D44 use a different U-joint than the D35?
Old 02-24-2009, 05:29 PM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
a1racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: socal
Posts: 7,244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

just keep your in there the extra lenght will not be a problem and they use the same u joints so as long as yours are good than go a head
Old 02-24-2009, 05:46 PM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
BuckB91XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oak Harbor, WA.
Posts: 6,989
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter RENIX I-6, DIY Cold Air Intake, 2.5 FM Exhaust, 3 Core Radiator
Default

Just keep the original DS you had in your 94. I put an 87 D44 rear axle in my 91. The only thing not from my original Jeep that I used was the axle itself.
Old 02-24-2009, 05:55 PM
  #4  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
Desertfox1023's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 2,340
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Year: 1994...mostly...
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L I6 HO, Lot's of Bolt Ons
Default

Sounds good thanks. That just took a big headache out of my swap.
Old 02-24-2009, 05:58 PM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
BuckB91XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Oak Harbor, WA.
Posts: 6,989
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter RENIX I-6, DIY Cold Air Intake, 2.5 FM Exhaust, 3 Core Radiator
Default

No worries, Bro. That's why we're all here on the forum to help out and save each other a buck or two when we can.
Old 02-24-2009, 06:07 PM
  #6  
CF Veteran
 
a1racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: socal
Posts: 7,244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

good luck with the swap
Old 02-24-2009, 06:26 PM
  #7  
CF Veteran
 
OverlandZJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bristol,Pa
Posts: 5,188
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Year: 94
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Look at it this way, when you lifted the Jeep it brought the slip yoke out slightly in the transfer case because it had a longer distance to the pinion vs a stock suspension.

Now, the D44 has a longer cast section for the pinion. Using the longer driveshaft in addition to the pinion length means your getting more slip yoke back into the transfer case. Always a good thing.
Old 02-24-2009, 06:44 PM
  #8  
CF Veteran
 
caged's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,874
Received 98 Likes on 89 Posts
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

don't think the d35 shaft will work. i had to get a d44 shaft, the d35 shaft was way too long. that's when i was at 5.5 inches.

you don't want to drop the rear end enough to slam the driveshaft into the t-case. you'll poke it right out the other side, so to speak.
Old 02-24-2009, 07:09 PM
  #9  
CF Veteran
 
a1racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: socal
Posts: 7,244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by caged
don't think the d35 shaft will work. i had to get a d44 shaft, the d35 shaft was way too long. that's when i was at 5.5 inches.

you don't want to drop the rear end enough to slam the driveshaft into the t-case. you'll poke it right out the other side, so to speak.
there is only 3/8th's of a difference the lift took out about 3/4r's of a inch. when i swapped mine in with my stock shaft i had no problem with only 3.5 inch's. dude that sucks about yours though did it hit the back of the transfer case
Old 02-24-2009, 07:15 PM
  #10  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
Desertfox1023's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 2,340
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Year: 1994...mostly...
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L I6 HO, Lot's of Bolt Ons
Default

Originally Posted by caged
don't think the d35 shaft will work. i had to get a d44 shaft, the d35 shaft was way too long. that's when i was at 5.5 inches.

you don't want to drop the rear end enough to slam the driveshaft into the t-case. you'll poke it right out the other side, so to speak.
Alot of other people I've talked to have not had this problem. I'll measure and mark the yoke just to be safe. I might also remove the 1" drop so I can gain some ground clearance back. Thanks for the warning. Sucks that it happened to you. I measured both of the shafts though so I'm sure on only having the 3/8th difference.
Old 02-24-2009, 07:32 PM
  #11  
CF Veteran
 
caged's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,874
Received 98 Likes on 89 Posts
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

didn't happen to me, but to my buddy when he put the 44 in his. but he was only 5 inches and had a 242, not sure if that's what did it... it just cracked his case in half.
Old 02-24-2009, 07:38 PM
  #12  
CF Veteran
 
OverlandZJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bristol,Pa
Posts: 5,188
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Year: 94
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by caged
didn't happen to me, but to my buddy when he put the 44 in his. but he was only 5 inches and had a 242, not sure if that's what did it... it just cracked his case in half.
I have heard of that happening before, could be the operating angle on the ujoint at transfer maxed out and put the stress on his output shaft. Was he flexed in the rear when this happened?
Old 02-24-2009, 10:23 PM
  #13  
CF Veteran
 
caged's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,874
Received 98 Likes on 89 Posts
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

he was carrying alot of weight in the back. tools, spare parts, camping gear. it was getting dark, so we were going a little fast down a trail trying to find a camp site, and he come over a hill and dropped down quick and squished his rear suspension, then boom.
Old 02-24-2009, 10:28 PM
  #14  
Do you hear banjos?
 
COSXJFAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,644
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

DS was too long, and the SY bottomed out. I've heard of this happening, and it must suck big time!! FWIW, I lifted my XJ 5.5"s in the rear, with a D44 and a 242, and I had 1" added to my DS when I had it rebuilt after some "rock love"!! I thought it would need more, but after looking at the amount slip I needed, it only took an inch. HTH!!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
denverXJ
Cherokee Chat
8
10-23-2018 04:36 PM
dcollins3208
Axles/Tires/Wheels
12
12-11-2015 11:49 AM
88cherokeewheeler
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
15
11-19-2015 07:24 PM
Freakn
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
52
10-04-2015 06:34 AM
ATNC325
Axles/Tires/Wheels
0
09-28-2015 10:01 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Swaping D35 for D44



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:01 AM.