swaybar delete
#16
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Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
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Originally Posted by cdawall
haven't had a sway bar in mine since like the second day i got it. have already had to swerve for various reasons and it was just fine. didn't roll nothing bad happened kept control. ranger is worse it has ZJ coils and they are still to flexy for the truck. no sways in that either. nothing bad has happened due to no sway bars.
I have seen numerous vehicles rolled because they removed the front swaybar, including XJ's. Just saying...
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Year: 2000
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Originally Posted by Pnguyen7
do they make rear sway bars discos?
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From: EAFB, SD
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go swerve 90 degrees at 70 MPH in an XJ stock ride height, stock suspension, stock tires minus sway bars its going to roll. now put the sway bars back in guess what its still rolls.
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Originally Posted by cdawall
how can you say it was because the sway bar was gone the vehicle rolled. there are plenty of rollovers that happen with sway bars connected. unless you go and under the exact same conditions manage to prevent a vehicle from rolling by connecting a sway bar i call BS. when you hit the point when a vehicle is going to roll 5 lbs worth of metal and 2 tiny nuts are not going to prevent anything.
go swerve 90 degrees at 70 MPH in an XJ stock ride height, stock suspension, stock tires minus sway bars its going to roll. now put the sway bars back in guess what its still rolls.
#22
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From: Northern Kentucky
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Originally Posted by JCKustoms
Regardless...it's not safe without a front swaybar on the road(.)
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From: Girard PA
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Everyone is forgetting the OPs original question and instead turning this into yet another swaybar debate. He wants to know if it is legal in PA, not whether 10,000 people think he should do it or not.
When I bought my Jeep from OH, it had no front bar. I asked around on a local Jeep forum and found someone who was willing to give me a free bar. When I got to his place, he cut the mounts off with an angle grinder. He was talking about getting it inspected within the next month so maybe it's not required. Then again, maybe it depends on which country hick garage you go to whether they care or not.
When I bought my Jeep from OH, it had no front bar. I asked around on a local Jeep forum and found someone who was willing to give me a free bar. When I got to his place, he cut the mounts off with an angle grinder. He was talking about getting it inspected within the next month so maybe it's not required. Then again, maybe it depends on which country hick garage you go to whether they care or not.
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Model: Cherokee
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I had a friend give me some 3" lift blocks and figured it would be an easy install...I put them on without much trouble but didn't check my tire rotation...yep, I'm a noob but learning....anyway, the sway bar in the rear was rubbing the inside wall of one tire so I removed it...I haven't noticed and handleing issues yet but I plan to keep the one in the front.
#25
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Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
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This thread clarified something that's been getting on my nerves for years. My father-in-law is a retired trucker, and he drilled it into my wife's head that any Jeep is unstable. He based that on having seen too many rolled jeeps during his long career. Now I think I get it: he probably has seen a good many no-swaybar Jeeps rolled in his travels.
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From: EAFB, SD
Year: 1994
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This thread clarified something that's been getting on my nerves for years. My father-in-law is a retired trucker, and he drilled it into my wife's head that any Jeep is unstable. He based that on having seen too many rolled jeeps during his long career. Now I think I get it: he probably has seen a good many no-swaybar Jeeps rolled in his travels.
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From: central PA
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This thread clarified something that's been getting on my nerves for years. My father-in-law is a retired trucker, and he drilled it into my wife's head that any Jeep is unstable. He based that on having seen too many rolled jeeps during his long career. Now I think I get it: he probably has seen a good many no-swaybar Jeeps rolled in his travels.
maybe there are alot of rolled jeeps because lots of them are lifted and drove by kids that cannot drive well
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From: Flint/Asheville
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It matter less on whos driving and more of if they have a sway bar or not. Anyone can panic when they are about to be hit and loose control, It just takes one yank of the steering wheel. Swaybars just make it easier to control the vehicle.
Do what you want, Its your life and I dont live in PA
Do what you want, Its your life and I dont live in PA
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From: Woodinville, Bothell and Marysville Washington
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 4.0
I will say in Washington if you get into an accident, even a minor fender bender, and the cop sees that you are missing at least one of your swaybars, automatically a huge fine. Sway bars were designed as a safety device to make normal driving more comfortable. I do know that ANY state that has a vehicle inspection will fail immediately if the vehicle is missing any said "safety" devices. Only passing my knowledge I gained working at an insurance office for a few years.
And I will say, without any sway bar, the body does have a lot more wobble when making sudden moves or sharp corners. You'll feel it
And I will say, without any sway bar, the body does have a lot more wobble when making sudden moves or sharp corners. You'll feel it