Are these gauge readings normal?
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From: Texas
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Just read online and the average thermostat for a Cherokee opens at 195 degrees. Maybe that's why it only stays at the first tick instead of going to 210.
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From: Southern Texas (former AZ & Aus)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
195 is the stock thermostat, and a normally running 4.0 in good condition will sit about 210.
No, the thermostat does NOT determine the temperature of the engine. It's not like the T-stat in your house.
The T-stat rating determines when the t-stat will begin to open.
The normal running temperature is determined by a ton of other factors. In simple terms, it's the rate of heat production vs. the rate of heat loss, but each one has a lot of variables.
That's why it's a fool's errand to put in a lower temp t-stat to solve an overheating problem. That only works for short trips. Once the t-stat is wide open, it has no more control over engine temp. Other factors start to take over. If you finish your usual trip before the other factors take over, you will think that your lower temp t-stat solved your problem. It didn't. It just postponed it.
No, the thermostat does NOT determine the temperature of the engine. It's not like the T-stat in your house.
The T-stat rating determines when the t-stat will begin to open.
The normal running temperature is determined by a ton of other factors. In simple terms, it's the rate of heat production vs. the rate of heat loss, but each one has a lot of variables.
That's why it's a fool's errand to put in a lower temp t-stat to solve an overheating problem. That only works for short trips. Once the t-stat is wide open, it has no more control over engine temp. Other factors start to take over. If you finish your usual trip before the other factors take over, you will think that your lower temp t-stat solved your problem. It didn't. It just postponed it.
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From: Southern Texas (former AZ & Aus)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
195 is the stock thermostat, and a normally running 4.0 in good condition will sit about 210.
No, the thermostat does NOT determine the temperature of the engine. It's not like the T-stat in your house.
The T-stat rating determines when the t-stat will begin to open.
The normal running temperature is determined by a ton of other factors. In simple terms, it's the rate of heat production vs. the rate of heat loss, but each one has a lot of variables.
That's why it's a fool's errand to put in a lower temp t-stat to solve an overheating problem. That only works for short trips. Once the t-stat is wide open, it has no more control over engine temp. Other factors start to take over. If you finish your usual trip before the other factors take over, you will think that your lower temp t-stat solved your problem. It didn't. It just postponed it.
No, the thermostat does NOT determine the temperature of the engine. It's not like the T-stat in your house.
The T-stat rating determines when the t-stat will begin to open.
The normal running temperature is determined by a ton of other factors. In simple terms, it's the rate of heat production vs. the rate of heat loss, but each one has a lot of variables.
That's why it's a fool's errand to put in a lower temp t-stat to solve an overheating problem. That only works for short trips. Once the t-stat is wide open, it has no more control over engine temp. Other factors start to take over. If you finish your usual trip before the other factors take over, you will think that your lower temp t-stat solved your problem. It didn't. It just postponed it.
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From: Prescott, AZ
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
I once put a parts store tstat in my Subaru. It was the right temperature rating 185, but constant overheating to 220 with it. Got a Subaru dealer part and found the parts store unit had half the diameter opening and just couldn't flow enough to allow real cooling. The OE part had it back to normal. So if you can't get flow the tstat rating means nothing. OTOH, if it is stuck way open and you get too much flow all the time the rating again means nothing in the other direction.
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Excellent points, double. I guess that's one reason that Cruiser recommends the Mopar T-stat.
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From: Littleton, CO
Year: '96
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 HO
My coolant temp has always run cooler than what I see everyone else's run. I'm normally below the 210 mark, but not as far at that, not even close. And my oil psi is always looking just like yours. I run T5 and a larger filter now, but it was the same psi before I moved to the bigger filter.
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From: Portland
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
I spent too much time trying to figure out why my temp gauge was incorrect after I replaced the temp sender (on the rear of the head). Turns out the gauge cluster needle can get out of whack and need to be physically adjusted or replaced. My guess is the same with other gauges.
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