Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Timing chain snapped

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-12-2014 | 01:54 PM
  #1  
NMJeep01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Albuquerque, NM
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default Timing chain snapped

Hello, i recently ran into an issue with my 92 4.0 l6 motor, at first thought it was a piston or something but then i pulled the oil pan and saw metal in the pan i recognized the metal as timing chain so then i pulled the head to check all of that jazz it all seemed good, im now confident that it was the timing chain, although my question is what would cause the chain to snap? Also the bottom timing gear teeth are all ripped of from the timing chain snapping, can someone help, wanna know what could have caused it before i put motor back together, thanks
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:00 PM
  #2  
RTorrez1's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,172
Likes: 4
From: Riviera, Texas
Year: 1998 Sport
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Old age can cause it t fail. After all it is a moving part and moving parts tend to fail. The chain could also have been stretched and running it like that could also can cause it to chew up the gears.
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:04 PM
  #3  
NMJeep01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Albuquerque, NM
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default

Originally Posted by RTorrez1
Old age can cause it t fail. After all it is a moving part and moving parts tend to fail. The chain could also have been stretched and running it like that could also can cause it to chew up the gears.
Sorry i forgot to add this really important part, the chain was pretty much brand new it had been ran for about 500 miles before it snapped
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:04 PM
  #4  
EZEARL's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,676
Likes: 298
From: WV
Year: '96
Model: Cherokee
Default

Yea,that parts important all right.

Crank or cam aren't locked up?

Last edited by EZEARL; 07-12-2014 at 02:08 PM.
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:11 PM
  #5  
NMJeep01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Albuquerque, NM
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default

Originally Posted by EZEARL
Yea,that parts important all right.

Crank or cam aren't locked up?
Crank isnt for sure cause it was turning over, although i havent pulled the timing cover off so i haven't been able to try to turn the cam, thinking maybe a cam bearing busted?
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:13 PM
  #6  
RTorrez1's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,172
Likes: 4
From: Riviera, Texas
Year: 1998 Sport
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by NMJeep01
Sorry i forgot to add this really important part, the chain was pretty much brand new it had been ran for about 500 miles before it snapped
That makes a big difference. How was it running before it snapped? Was it making any kind of rattle or strange noise from the front of the engine? The only reason I have seen one that new snap, was the gear wasn't pressed all the way in to place. It cause the chain to bind and it snapped. It was on one of my brothers cars that he put a new chain on and didn't seat the gear all the way into place. The only other thing I could think is the chain was defective.
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:15 PM
  #7  
NMJeep01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Albuquerque, NM
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default

Originally Posted by RTorrez1
That makes a big difference. How was it running before it snapped? Was it making any kind of rattle or strange noise from the front of the engine? The only reason I have seen one that new snap, was the gear wasn't pressed all the way in to place. It cause the chain to bind and it snapped. It was on one of my brothers cars that he put a new chain on and didn't seat the gear all the way into place. The only other thing I could think is the chain was defective.
It was running great better than it ever had really, i was thinking possibly a cam bearing busted and gave slack in the cam to push forward? Its far fetched but i kinda have to think of the worst before i put it back together
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:32 PM
  #8  
EZEARL's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,676
Likes: 298
From: WV
Year: '96
Model: Cherokee
Default

Won't know what happened til you look. Time to dig in and get dirty. Let us know what you find.
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:36 PM
  #9  
NMJeep01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Albuquerque, NM
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Default

Originally Posted by EZEARL
Won't know what happened til you look. Time to dig in and get dirty. Let us know what you find.
Will do im just trying to get a puller, after i have it off ill update yall! Thanks for the feedback!
Old 07-12-2014 | 02:42 PM
  #10  
EZEARL's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,676
Likes: 298
From: WV
Year: '96
Model: Cherokee
Default

Good enough.
Old 07-12-2014 | 03:46 PM
  #11  
BlueRidgeMark's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 957
From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

You now have little metal parts running around in your engine. Yay!

You also don't know if you screwed up the valves or bend the camshaft because you can't see that just by looking at it.

Time for a full rebuild.
Old 07-12-2014 | 07:42 PM
  #12  
md21722's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 672
Likes: 5
From: Colorado
Year: 2001, 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Depends where the metal ended up. If it simply fell into the pan then no real issue.

Possibility of defective chain. Or like the others said, cam or gear problem.
Old 07-12-2014 | 08:13 PM
  #13  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,565
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Probably a POS chinese timing chain and gears.

Has WunHungLo struck again?

Last edited by cruiser54; 07-12-2014 at 08:15 PM.
Old 07-12-2014 | 08:51 PM
  #14  
EZEARL's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,676
Likes: 298
From: WV
Year: '96
Model: Cherokee
Default

First they poison our dogs. Now this?
Old 07-12-2014 | 09:13 PM
  #15  
CCKen's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 90
From: Canton, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by EZEARL
First they poison our dogs. Now this?
The ChiComs eat dogs.


Quick Reply: Timing chain snapped



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:59 PM.