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Old 09-06-2009, 02:04 PM
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we are working on it now changing a few things. I'll give a full update tonite when we are done. Please cross ur fingers and toes that today is the day. Let it be my end of the summer labor day holiday no more headache relaxing week before my vacation gift.
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today's the day
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today's the day
Not exactly but very close. The guy we have helping now is not willing to give up on us.

We decided to change the cam from the original motor, put the dist back to original and the timing set from the original motor into the new motor. It did something good cause its running smoother, but still has a backfire. Not near as bad, it is running on its own, not shutting itself off, not retarding and advancing like it was and its taking the throttle.
We forgot to block off the egr again so the efforts to set the timing tonite were useless cause its got the bad vac leak (egr broke and stuck open). By the time we realized it was after dark and all parts stores were closed. We'll be plugging the hole tomorrow and trying to reset timing.

Does anyone have an 88 that could look at the dist cap and tell me where the #1 plug position is since there are 2 different positions for the inline 6?
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The guy we have helping now is not willing to give up on us.
This is my kind of person ... I like this guy It is only a machine here that we're working on .... a man designed it and a man put it together ... .and a man, by-god, can fix it too. That's all there is to it. (A man= a person) .

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sounds like a problem from hell.
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Yup ... all 15 pages of it ... maybe gonna' write a book when it's done. Call it "A Jeep Possessed' ... or something ... lol
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Yup ... all 15 pages of it ... maybe gonna' write a book when it's done. Call it "A Jeep Possessed' ... or something ... lol
Ain't that the truth, lol.

It will be up and running tomorrow. All of it will end up being the cam and dist gear did not line up nor did the timing set gears. I basically bought a motor and replaced it with everything from my old motor. I spend the money and 3 weeks on a motor that I changed all but the block. if you ask me it was such a waste.
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Mistakes happen. Tomorrow's a new day.
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I dont think it was that much of a waste because the most of the main internal parts still have less miles now then before and should give you years of enjoyment.
I just want to see that thing running and covered in mud like yucky clay mud that will teach it
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Default forensically speaking ...today's the day !

Oh, yeah ... couple of people hit, or came close to hitting, the real problem along the way. In this case, there was an extrordinary amount of 'mix and match' that got mixed but didn't match so good as well. This practice made it just that much harder to get to the bottom of it.

This extremely difficult case also demonstrated and proved two opposing concepts: The limitations of internet diagnosis and repair AND the power of the internet to diagnose, ie, the power of pooled intellect and talent. Very interesting.

There was also 'the ego factor' that you mentioned a few times too, Karen. I think perhaps that had you been the only 'commander in chief', there might have been fewer circular proceedures; ie., ye ole 'too many cooks in the kitchen' syndrome. No offense meant to anyone who tried to help either.

Anyway ... looking forward to a sound clip of that motor running ... lol. Have a fun day
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today we have cylinder #2 not firing at all and #5 fires a couple sparks then stops. Why? What could be causing this?
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cap, wire, plug, module ...?
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try swapping plugs and wires with other cyls ... check the cap closely for arcing
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we get good fire on all cyliders with the dist 180 out but the engine wont start. Any comments, suggestions?


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