timing? What else could it be?
09-07-2009, 02:27 PM
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Yeah we did all that was stated...not helping. OMG this is driving me nuts. I know we are right there just a tooth or so off and just cant quite get it.
09-07-2009, 03:25 PM
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WTF? ... last night it was running but EGR was sucking air ... what could have been done between now and then? Whatever it was, lets undo THAT. Lets get back to last night. OMG
09-07-2009, 03:29 PM
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something happened and i think the starter or solenoid burned up cause it wont crank just click. It wont start now at all. I am done! I give up, the jeep won...all this work and time I cant do it anymore. I think Im gonna put it up for sale and try to find something else this week or when I come back from vac.
My friend has given up too. he said we have done and tried everything he can possibly think of and its not helping so just take the loss and sell...
My friend has given up too. he said we have done and tried everything he can possibly think of and its not helping so just take the loss and sell...
09-07-2009, 04:31 PM
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Oh how I feel bad for you karen7. The only thing worse than not knowing how to do something yourself is depending on someone that knows no more than you do.
09-07-2009, 05:09 PM
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you cant let it win I know theres a bunch of guys and gals on here that live in pa that could probably help you its so close.
I think that I speak for blue and vistacruiser as well when I say that if we had the time money or less distance we would be there quick as can be and get that thing going for you.
keep at it youll get it
I think that I speak for blue and vistacruiser as well when I say that if we had the time money or less distance we would be there quick as can be and get that thing going for you.
keep at it youll get it
09-07-2009, 05:44 PM
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you cant let it win I know theres a bunch of guys and gals on here that live in pa that could probably help you its so close.
I think that I speak for blue and vistacruiser as well when I say that if we had the time money or less distance we would be there quick as can be and get that thing going for you.
keep at it youll get it
I think that I speak for blue and vistacruiser as well when I say that if we had the time money or less distance we would be there quick as can be and get that thing going for you.
keep at it youll get it
09-07-2009, 06:11 PM
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I cried alot over the last couple hrs and feel a little better. I knew 1 last person who "can fix anything or it'll never be fixed" kind of guy. He was very stern and yelled toward me cause of so many hands he wouldn't know where to start, but he agreed to come look at it wed nite if not tomorrow. He always gets to clean up everyone else's messes so he gets pi**ed about it but thats understandable.
He said from what I told him it still sounds like timing and we are just not lining it up properly. This guy really is great at what he does. If he can NOT fix it then I guess I'll admit defeat and sell.
I am so angry at this thing because I know we are so close...
He said from what I told him it still sounds like timing and we are just not lining it up properly. This guy really is great at what he does. If he can NOT fix it then I guess I'll admit defeat and sell.
I am so angry at this thing because I know we are so close...
09-07-2009, 08:35 PM
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Yup ... it really does sound like timing ... has all along ... but assumption is the mother of all f'ups when it comes to a case like this ... BTW, does it crank now?
The Cap'n is totally right on this point ... Right on, Cap'n!! ...
take some time off ... regroup ... this man you're talkin' to sounds good ... gonna' pm you my phone ... feel free to use it whenever ... on second thought ... just gonna' put it here. Anyone can call who wants to talk about this case ... sometimes stuff gets lost in the transcription as I don't think any of us are technical writers .. we're wrenches, hobbists and thinkers ... can we talk?
...951.443.9708. Steve aka Wiz is my name.
The Cap'n is totally right on this point ... Right on, Cap'n!! ...
take some time off ... regroup ... this man you're talkin' to sounds good ... gonna' pm you my phone ... feel free to use it whenever ... on second thought ... just gonna' put it here. Anyone can call who wants to talk about this case ... sometimes stuff gets lost in the transcription as I don't think any of us are technical writers .. we're wrenches, hobbists and thinkers ... can we talk? ...951.443.9708. Steve aka Wiz is my name.
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09-07-2009, 10:26 PM
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Anyone can call who wants to talk about this case ... sometimes stuff gets lost in the transcription as I don't think any of us are technical writers .. we're wrenches, hobbists and thinkers ... can we talk? ...951.443.9708. Steve aka Wiz is my name.[/quote]
x2 totally agree pm me for mine the wife got mad about posting it
maybe we can get a bunch of us together and talking about it at once if she needs it.
...951.443.9708. Steve aka Wiz is my name.[/quote]x2 totally agree pm me for mine the wife got mad about posting it
maybe we can get a bunch of us together and talking about it at once if she needs it.
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09-08-2009, 03:24 AM
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Hello Karen
There is no cam sensor on a Renix system, the sesnsor in the distributor is just a timing advancer for high RPMs, will work even if unplugged, basically useless.
Timing should be 5 deg advanced (before 0) at idle speed.
If the ecu controls timing, and timing is adjusted using only cam sensor and cps, but the cam sensor is not hitting right cause the gears on the cam itself are lined up, that would cause timing to be off regardless of what we do?
The timing light is showing it being about 1" past the 0 mark on the HB after TDC even tho we set it right on everytime. Where the mark is showing under the timing light is never changing no matter how much we advance or retard the HB or dist teeth.