Understanding my AW4
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Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
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Understanding my AW4
My '89 XJ has an AW4 automatic transmission. The shift position indicators are laid out like this...
P
R
N
D
3
1-2
It's that last part that has me stumped, the 3, 1-2 part. Since, if I put the transmission in the 1-2 position, logic would dictate that this would allow the transmission to operate only in first and second gear. However, with the transmission in this position, it only operates in first gear and will not shift into second until I move the lever into the "3" position. Shouldn't the indicator panel read...
P
R
N
D
2-3
1
As far as I can tell, 2nd gear is not available in that last position... or is there something wrong with my transmission?
P
R
N
D
3
1-2
It's that last part that has me stumped, the 3, 1-2 part. Since, if I put the transmission in the 1-2 position, logic would dictate that this would allow the transmission to operate only in first and second gear. However, with the transmission in this position, it only operates in first gear and will not shift into second until I move the lever into the "3" position. Shouldn't the indicator panel read...
P
R
N
D
2-3
1
As far as I can tell, 2nd gear is not available in that last position... or is there something wrong with my transmission?
#2
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From: Leadville Co
Year: 2000
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.7
I never had an AW4 but I recall that they shift via pressure shift from 1-2 at 4k RPM. But I could be thinking of something else entirely. Someone else?
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From: Nor-Cal Coast
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Hey there F1. I went through a bit with this since I wanted 2nd for going 3 mi down 1,500 feet. It will use 2nd going up, accelerating. In decel, mine will stay in 2nd until I drop below about 33 mph, then "hit" first. No fun! (got part of a stump stuck in my rack once).
There is a link here in post #19 with yet more....https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/dec...105739/index2/
There is a link here in post #19 with yet more....https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/dec...105739/index2/
#7
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Year: 1989
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I know, I know, buy an AX15 equipped XJ. That's not an option for me right now.
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From: Nazareth/Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L 242ci I6
I posted a thread on here about the same thing. They said that it will shift at redline, but I'm not gonna try and possibly blow my 233k engine. Best option in my opinion is to put a switch. Anyone know how to do that?
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Decelerating above 35 mph (stock), in the 1-2 position, it should be in second. You don't get allot of braking from it until your 40 ish +. With my switch I can set it so it wont kick down on it's own to first when I slow down.
You can set it to stay in first, just with the shifter.
I found my bucket of saws-all blades looken at that thread!
You can set it to stay in first, just with the shifter.
I found my bucket of saws-all blades looken at that thread!
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From: SoCal
Year: 1989
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Decelerating above 35 mph (stock), in the 1-2 position, it should be in second. You don't get allot of braking from it until your 40 ish +. With my switch I can set it so it wont kick down on it's own to first when I slow down.
You can set it to stay in first, just with the shifter.
I found my bucket of saws-all blades looken at that thread!
You can set it to stay in first, just with the shifter.
I found my bucket of saws-all blades looken at that thread!
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Just got back from going to the store and can confirm, it does shift to 2nd at redline (~5000 RPM) and holds it down to about 30 MPH before dropping into 1st again. The downshift was very smooth, by the way. I was ready for something that would suck my eyeballs out of my head but it was rather undramatic.
Still hoping someone will find a link to the 1st gear lock-out switch. I've been googling with no success.
Still hoping someone will find a link to the 1st gear lock-out switch. I've been googling with no success.
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Just got back from going to the store and can confirm, it does shift to 2nd at redline (~5000 RPM) and holds it down to about 30 MPH before dropping into 1st again. The downshift was very smooth, by the way. I was ready for something that would suck my eyeballs out of my head but it was rather undramatic.
Still hoping someone will find a link to the 1st gear lock-out switch. I've been googling with no success.
Still hoping someone will find a link to the 1st gear lock-out switch. I've been googling with no success.
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Holy freakin' crap, I love the internet... and this dude from Australia who not only has a very good write-up on the 1st gear lock-out but also a full schematic for converting your AW4 to a full tiptronic-type manual with the flip of a switch.
http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm
http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
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Holy freakin' crap, I love the internet... and this dude from Australia who not only has a very good write-up on the 1st gear lock-out but also a full schematic for converting your AW4 to a full tiptronic-type manual with the flip of a switch.
http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm
http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAutoSwitch.htm
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From: SoCal
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