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Old 05-30-2019, 05:49 AM
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So i have cleaned all the grounds. And i happened to see that the power wire for my 02 sensor was torn out of the sensor and the wire was touching the metal on the 02 sensor. Could that be why the PCM’s keep getting fried?
It is a good possibility, as it will ground the driver in the pcm. Good chance that the pcms aren't even bad. This falls under my 'slap in the face' rule. You can't try to fix one thing when another is slapping you in the face; you have to fix that first and see.
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Originally Posted by Cody Stuart
...i happened to see that the power wire for my 02 sensor was torn out of the sensor and the wire was touching the metal on the 02 sensor. Could that be why the PCM’s keep getting fried?
I'm going with probably not. The Oxygen Heater Relay should have fried first.

However, concur that PCM may not be fried (although still want to take it apart. Love to take things apart).
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I'm going with probably not. The Oxygen Heater Relay should have fried first.


I'm going with probably not, as well, but FIX KNOWN PROBLEMS FIRST. You know you have a problem with your O2 sensor. Fix that before you even think about your PCM.

Once you have that fixed, see where you are. THEN if there seems to be another problem, you tackle that problem. Don't try to get them all figured out in your head before you fix what you know is a problem.


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However, concur that PCM may not be fried (although still want to take it apart. Love to take things apart).
I doubt there's any benefit to that. If it is fried, it likely is just a toasted transistor on a chip, which won't be visible without an electron microscope. Obvious burning isn't likely.
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However, concur that PCM may not be fried (although still want to take it apart. Love to take things apart).
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I doubt there's any benefit to that. If it is fried, it likely is just a toasted transistor on a chip, which won't be visible without an electron microscope. Obvious burning isn't likely.
Actually, failed capacitor(s) are a frequent cause of failed PCM. Damage is often visible or they are easily tested. I have taken the liberty of ordering a set should the OP decide to go that route. However, I plan on upgrading to the 35V as I am not a big fan of the 25s.
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Anyway, IMO this is the best advice. They may only be asleep and need to be "awakened":

Originally Posted by JGravey
Have you tried replacing the newest “dead” PCM with one of the ones that you already replaced to see if it turns on. Cause if it does and then dies again, the PCMs are good and something else is setting it off.
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Okay so i got a new pcm cause the last one i got had a warranty and i put it in and a new 02 sensor and it’s running now. And I’ve plugged the other pcms in and they don’t work
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Okay so i got a new pcm cause the last one i got had a warranty and i put it in and a new 02 sensor and it’s running now. And I’ve plugged the other pcms in and they don’t work
OK fingers crossed...
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Actually, failed capacitor(s) are a frequent cause of failed PCM. Damage is often visible or they are easily tested..

Yes, probably the most common failure point, but usually from drying out. They are electrolytics, and unless they have ruptured, they look fine. This kind of failure will much more likely be a driver transistor on a microchip. Possibly a power transistor on the board, but again, visible damage isn't likely. It would be very hard to see, too, as it's hidden under the potting compound. That stuff is thick and deep on those things, and you can't see the board clearly under it`. For any such damage to be visible, it would have to be so bad that it burns through the main board, which is not likely at all.
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And I’ve plugged the other pcms in and they don’t work
Got any plans for them?
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