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Old 10-24-2010 | 09:51 PM
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I have had my XJ for about 6 months and after the basic maitenance, plugs, wires, all fluids etc. everything was ok... for a while. Just recently the crack in my windshield grew substantially one day on a trail, and not that I didnt know it was coming but my tires are finally shot, and now my power steering is leaking/failing. All things to be expected with a car thats 18 yrs old with 250k+ miles. On top of that, most recently my engine temps are rising, even though the temperature outside is dropping, I have plenty of coolant and other than that I cant think of anything off the top of my head. Before my around town temps were about 180 while offroad was about 210. Now around town I'm at 200-205ish and offroad is about 220. Are these temps ok, what might be causing it, and what should I do?

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Old 10-25-2010 | 12:07 AM
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210 is normal operating temp, start to worry at about 240 degrees. Replace the radiator cap and see if there is any difference.
Old 10-25-2010 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe18
I have had my XJ for about 6 months and after the basic maitenance, plugs, wires, all fluids etc. everything was ok... for a while. Just recently the crack in my windshield grew substantially one day on a trail, and not that I didnt know it was coming but my tires are finally shot, and now my power steering is leaking/failing. All things to be expected with a car thats 18 yrs old with 250k+ miles. On top of that, most recently my engine temps are rising, even though the temperature outside is dropping, I have plenty of coolant and other than that I cant think of anything off the top of my head. Before my around town temps were about 180 while offroad was about 210. Now around town I'm at 200-205ish and offroad is about 220. Are these temps ok, what might be causing it, and what should I do?

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check coolant when replacing cap
Old 10-25-2010 | 09:57 AM
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For any 18 yr old, 250K mile vehicle u have barely scratched the surface for maintenance/repair/replacement items. I'd start with the entire cooling system, from the rad cap to the heater hoses and everything in between.
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Alright I was just being cautious and I really didnt know, it is my first vehicle. I'll grab a new radiator cap, hopefully It'll help a bit. And the previous owner provided documentation of when just about everything had been replaced, and I've done quite a bit more than what I mentioned, fuel filter, front end bushings, alignment, cap and rotor, changed motor, transmission, T-case, and both axles fluids. Trust me, if I spent any more than what I did on the jeep id put more money into it and have more stuff done, also if I knew what I was doing I probably would have done it.

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I'll look into the cooling system. You dont mean a new radiator and, pump and stuff like that do you? You're probably right.
Old 10-25-2010 | 09:55 PM
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........You dont mean a new radiator and, pump and stuff like that do you? You're probably right.
Unless u have documentation from the PO that those items have been changed, then yes, that's what I mean.......gradually replace it all. New rad & water pump will run +/-$175. Trust me, u'll sleep better at night and 220 seems a little toasty this time of year in MT.

Also, in your op u mentioned 180 around town.......have u checked to see if for sure there's a t-stat in it? U'll need a t-stat this winter.

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Old 10-26-2010 | 12:36 AM
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u could just have a gunked up radiator or sticky thermostat...start small. a flush is easy and cheap. put in a lower thermostat, see if it stays cooler
Old 10-26-2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by djb383
Unless u have documentation from the PO that those items have been changed, then yes, that's what I mean.......gradually replace it all. New rad & water pump will run +/-$175. Trust me, u'll sleep better at night and 220 seems a little toasty this time of year in MT.
or if you know the right people you can get your parts alot cheaper. my dad owns a shop and he got me a brand new rad, water pump, t stat, and all hoses (even the heater hoses) and a belt for about 150$.. thats cheap considering a rad should cost about 80-90$ here and a water pump is about 60$ the belt wouldve been like 50$ and the hoses are prolly 30$ a pop and half that for the heater lines. plus the 2.65$ for the t stat. you do the math.. youll save alot of money. and im sure if you know someone they wont have a problem buying your parts for you at their cost.
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That's why I posted +/-. LOL
Old 10-26-2010 | 05:39 PM
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I would check the clutch fan 1st and foremost. Its usually the culprit.

To check spin the fan by hand when the motor is cold. then take it for a drive till its at 200+ degrees, turn it off and spin the fan by hand again. It should be harder to spin when hot
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