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Old 12-24-2014, 01:28 PM
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Using anti-seize compound on the studs will actually decrease the clamping force when the lug nut is torqued to spec. A drop of 30wt on the stud is better and the clamping force will increase with the lug nut torqued to spec. You can not rely solely on the torque spec to have the proper clamping force, too many variables can cause the torque to be incorrect.
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Originally Posted by 1998blackXJ
Just learned this is class... You CAN use anti seize on lug nuts.. However keep it mind it is a lubricant.. Therefore by the book you're supposed to drop the torque spec by 40% if you use anti seize. In my opinion.. Clean the threads and put then on dry, torque to 100ft lbs.
I am not sure what class you went to that said it's ok, but someone should tell the instructor that he/she is teaching a group of people the WRONG way!


I took a required class (for my job) that taught the harmful effects of using anti-seize on wheel lugs............


Anti-seize will DECREASE the clamping force when you torque the fastener to spec.................DON'T use it guys!


http://fleetowner.com/equipment/tire...debunking_myth
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Originally Posted by Firehawk068
I am not sure what class you went to that said it's ok, but someone should tell the instructor that he/she is teaching a group of people the WRONG way! I took a required class (for my job) that taught the harmful effects of using anti-seize on wheel lugs............ Anti-seize will DECREASE the clamping force when you torque the fastener to spec.................DON'T use it guys! http://fleetowner.com/equipment/tire...debunking_myth
it's actually being taught all across America right out of the textbook. It does decrease the clamping force, if you use it you take 40% of the torque spec away. I said it can be used, but I am not recommending it.
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
Using anti-seize compound on the studs will actually decrease the clamping force when the lug nut is torqued to spec. A drop of 30wt on the stud is better and the clamping force will increase with the lug nut torqued to spec. You can not rely solely on the torque spec to have the proper clamping force, too many variables can cause the torque to be incorrect.
Adding ANY lubricant to the stud will change the torque spec.. I still recommend cleaning the threads and putting them on DRY
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A drop of 30wt oil on the stud will increase the clamping force, anti-seize will decrease the clamping force. The studs should be dry unless specified by the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
A drop of 30wt oil on the stud will increase the clamping force, anti-seize will decrease the clamping force. The studs should be dry unless specified by the manufacturer.
WRONG 30wt still acts as a lubricant
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Originally Posted by 1998blackXJ
WRONG 30wt still acts as a lubricant
Yes, it acts as a lubricant and let's the lug nut turn on the stud more before reaching the specified torque, thus increasing the clamping force. Some manufacturers recommend 30wt oil on the stud before torquing the lug nuts, like on large truck hub centric wheels that use a lug nut with a washer built onto it.
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They. Go. On. Dry.




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so let me get this straight soak the lug nuts in anti seize and then put 30 drops of 30wt on the studs? Then torque them to 5 lbs of torque? With a plastic torque wrench?
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Originally Posted by Firestorm500
They. Go. On. Dry. The End
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Notice I said "some manufacturers", not all. They go on dry on Jeeps and other Chrysler products.
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
Notice I said "some manufacturers", not all. They go on dry on Jeeps and other Chrysler products.
now you're changing your mind? You were so confident earlier.. LOL no point in arguing over this .. Put them on dry and you're golden
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Originally Posted by Firehawk068
I am not sure what class you went to that said it's ok, but someone should tell the instructor that he/she is teaching a group of people the WRONG way!


I took a required class (for my job) that taught the harmful effects of using anti-seize on wheel lugs............


Anti-seize will DECREASE the clamping force when you torque the fastener to spec.................DON'T use it guys!


http://fleetowner.com/equipment/tire...debunking_myth

If you're comparing using anti-seize vs. dry which is the conversation at hand here your instructor and you are dead wrong.
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Ah come on ppl! It's christmas! Put away your debate on anti-seize and have an adult beverage. Cheers all!


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