OnlyInMyXJ22, for clarity's sake I'm not saying they could have done it any differently. I'm just asking about hypothecital alternatives because I would have been just as stunned as the rest of the folk in that video if I were there. I want to learn from this video so I don't repeat it. So, I thought of an alternative...putting another vehicle right infront of the stuck XJ and winching it out. the problem is I don't know if that would work. Would it get the stuck XJ out? Would the other rig get stuck?

For me hypothetical situations are the best for instruction because you and the others who know about this, can tell me what to look for in these situations to find safe recovery options. If you reread my message that you quoted, you will clearly see that I said IF, AKA, in a perfect world, should you have any recovery options available, etc. etc. etc.

Sorry IF I wasn't clear.
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Don't be sorry, and I understood what you said. You probably missed the bottom portion of my post. I said if they could have hooked up on that side, it would have been a much easier out, whether being pulled by someone, or using the winch.

 

THat was a very horrible angle to try and make a pull from. THat should have been pulled backards or to the drivers side.

 

yeah the way they where being pulled is what caused the damage. a winch would have made it easier because it would have not put so much of a load at once. but the big problem was the lack of digging if they cleared a path first there would have most likely been no problem

 

the biggest problem was that the truck jerked him way to hard. when you are stuck like that you cant just be yanked out because things will break. someone should have got a heavy duty chain come along or a winch and slowly pulled him out. digging with shovels also helps but i think he could have gotten out from that same angle with just the slow steady pulling of a winch

 

and since the tow rig was on higher ground a winch would've lifted as well as pulled, and yes, jerked way to hard and fast.

 

x3 theres no way it could be on the axle the axle went back the jeep went forward end o story

 

Damn that sucks!

 

I have personally pulled out a ton of stuck trucks. all different sizes and all different situations. (it helped having a 3/4 ton chevy with 454 and 38 inch tires, everyone asked for help)

the biggest problem I see here is there was something in that hole where the right front tire was stopping it. more than mud. hard packed dirt or a boulder. a big indicator was when the back of the jeep started to rise with NO forward movement.

I personally would have pulled him out from the rear. from what I could tell traction was an issue though. if I absolutely had to pull from the angle they where pulling from, it would have only been after they shoveled the nose out.

actually after just re watching the video you can tell its hard packed dirt with water and little mud on it. (when driver steps out his shoe barly sinks) they where stuck in hole trying to pull an axle through a mound of dirt and rock. a shovel and a high lift jack would have helped more than anything. jack it up fill in around that tire and tug him out.

their is a winching tecknigue that i have seen used that may have worked here if they had a winch. you take a three or four foot 4x6 board and stand it up a few feet in front ot the vehical and run a winch cabel over it. as you winch, the vehical will raise up and forward. ive only ever seen it done with a winch though.

hope this is what you where looking for.

 

i agree about the ground they were in, thats what caused a lot of damage. a back hoe would've come in handy.

 

we have a winer
I didn't think any one would get it

you my friend have true experience

 

While we are on the subject of tow points... how do you connect a recovery strap if both vehicles have D-rings?

 

Wouldnt another option that would have been better than theirs is to put the strap on the passenger rim? Thus it would pull[and I mean slowly with a winch] the tire/axle/whole front end for the jeep over[and hopefully up out of the mud] without tipping the jeep over? then once the jeep was parallel with the truck, then pull it across the mud creek?

Just a thought,...

 

Or using a diesel trying to pull you out doing a whole shot.........

 

most people are calling a clevis connection a D ring
if you have a d ring you still need a clevis to conect
first pic is a clevis
second is a D ring