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Old 09-28-2020 | 09:45 PM
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Something is bleeding down I bet. Fluid is getting past a seal or something.
Can't hurt to try an additive at this point to see what happens.
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mine does the following...it takes a about 15 secs to engage Reverse on 1st cold start

It used to rev high in 1st before upchanging 1st cold start

my understanding is there is a spring loaded valve that prevents fluid draining out the torque convertor, presumably this isnt working as it should
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Old 09-28-2020 | 10:38 PM
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Sounds like that is probably the problem. Maybe an accumulator? Should I drop the tranny and put a shift kit into it or check out the spring loaded valve he was talking about. If anyone can tell me where that is or the name of it.
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Measure the solenoid resistance when cold. It's possible you have a bad solenoid that starts working once it's warmed up.
Old 09-29-2020 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Something is bleeding down I bet. Fluid is getting past a seal or something.
Can't hurt to try an additive at this point to see what happens.
I feel like this is most likely what is happening but what seals could be the culprit. Also if I were to test the 1-2 solenoid how would I do that.
Old 09-29-2020 | 01:48 PM
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Use a multimeter set to Ohms in the 200 range. Test each of the highlighted pins against an earthing point and you should see between 11-15 Ohms if I remember correctly. A good reading just means the solenoid will pass current, which in most cases means it will work fine but it could still struggle to operate with a good reading. No reading indicates either a damaged wire or a faulty solenoid.
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Ok thanks I will try this. It’s just funny to me how it works fine when warmed up so doesn’t really make a ton of sense that it would be a solenoid. Maybe a valve body rebuild or something like that would fix or help if this doesn’t show any signs.
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One more thing...as per the FSM test, my trans also takes 1.7secs to engage reverse...outside the maximum spec of 1.5secs

the high RPM upchange on 1st start went away when I completely changed out the fluid (12 litre flush)

my trans showed signs of very poor PO maintenance, and I did not believe it had long to live, so got myself another, which I will fit if mine goes boom

I have found it much cheaper to buy when someone else wants to sell, than when you need to buy
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Electrical components react to temperature.
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Isn’t there also a way I can disconnect the tcm and shift manually to see if it’s mechanical or electrical problem.
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Isn’t there also a way I can disconnect the tcm and shift manually to see if it’s mechanical or electrical problem.
Yep. Unplug the TCU and shift manually. You,ll have Reverse, 1st, 3rd, and OD
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So I tested all the solenoids. They all read 15-16. I think this is the correct range. They all passed when cold. My next guess would be the fluid bleeding down in the valve body that maybe a valve body rebuild would fix. Any suggestions? I have yet to try to disconnect the tcu when cold.
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Originally Posted by Jamelow
So I tested all the solenoids. They all read 15-16. I think this is the correct range. They all passed when cold. My next guess would be the fluid bleeding down in the valve body that maybe a valve body rebuild would fix. Any suggestions? I have yet to try to disconnect the tcu when cold.
Disconnect the TCU.
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So I unplugged the tcu and it shifted from 1st into 3rd just fine. Reverse worked just fine. The problem was that when cold or sitting it wouldn’t shift for a couple minutes out of first. The problem was that it wouldn’t shift into 2nd gear. But with the tcu unplugged there is no way to test 2nd. Only 1 and 3. What does this tell me? It still shifted fine manually out of first to third though.
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Originally Posted by Jamelow
So I unplugged the tcu and it shifted from 1st into 3rd just fine. Reverse worked just fine. The problem was that when cold or sitting it wouldn’t shift for a couple minutes out of first. The problem was that it wouldn’t shift into 2nd gear. But with the tcu unplugged there is no way to test 2nd. Only 1 and 3. What does this tell me? It still shifted fine manually out of first to third though.
Did it move immediately?



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