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Old 11-28-2014, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mech17
I don't have a temp gauge, but 1/4 up the gauge sounds about right for a warm engine at idle in cold weather.
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177 is close to the temperature the thermostat should start to open at. What are you going off of for the "operating temperature?"
1/4 up the gauge would be 155* mathematically, no? A properly functioning 195* stat will start to open with-in +/-2*-3* of 195, not 177 or 18* below a 195* stat and certainly not at 155* or 40* below a 195* stat.
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New stat did the trick. IR at stat 188 to 198 temp gauge at 210 or just under heat is blowing nice and hot. So after 3 bad fail safe stats I will not run anything but oem.
Thanks for all the help guys.
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So all 3 stats were 195* MotoRad FailSafes?
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First stat was a mr gasket high flow stat. The last two were fail safe. Yes all 3 were 195* stats.
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How hot do those crazy stats have to get to fail?????........that's the $64K question.
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How hot do those crazy stats have to get to fail?????........that's the $64K question.
Do the hot water and thermometer test on one and let us know.
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Not sure. The jeep never overheated one fail safe looked fine the other one was stuck half open on one side.
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Originally Posted by Firestorm500
Do the hot water and thermometer test on one and let us know.
Do u have a "FailSafe" stat?......I think everybody here knows I wouldn't have one. Since the OP has 2, maybe he would unlock them (easy to do) and do the test for the Forum. If they "fail" at or below 212*, MotoRad has some serious problems. If the OP is kind enough to do the test for the Forum, I hope he doesn't toss them into boiling water........wouldn't want to go there again, that would be Crazy.
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Well I unlocked the stat and couldn't get them to fail. The first one I pulled out of my jeep looked fine the last one I pulled out yesterday was only locked on one side. I'm not sure what's going on with the fail safe stat all I know is the oem stat is working fine.
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When I ran a fail safe I noticed if I got on the skinny pedal to accelerate the temps would nosedive and come back up. I think they use a weak spring that can't handle flow very well. They may very well test good on the stove.
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Without a test, we'll never know. One would think with a dime sized hole beside the stat relieving flow pressure that the spring would be strong enough to not open from flow pressure. If it does, MotoRad has serious problems.

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I think DJB's favorite beverage is ethylene glycol.
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Originally Posted by timamybrown
Well I unlocked the stat and couldn't get them to fail...........
Does that mean u tested them? If so, how was your test done?
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Yes tested them. I did it on the stove in boiling water they both opened and closed fine. The highest I could get the water temp was 230*. If you know a better way let me know and I will gladly test again.
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Originally Posted by Crazy 8s
I think DJB's favorite beverage is ethylene glycol.
I like drinking from the well of valid, reliable knowledge, don't u?


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