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Old 01-27-2013, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
Now that i remember, Mythbusters did this on their mpg booster myths episode. Didnt work. Popular mechanics also found the same result when they tried it. Hocus Pocus
You searched and found the same thread on here that I found? lol
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
Now that i remember, Mythbusters did this on their mpg booster myths episode. Didnt work. Popular mechanics also found the same result when they tried it. Hocus Pocus
Any thing that you remember actually worked
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Whenever I have asked someone who has it they've never given me a clear answer so I had a feeling that it didn't, I just wanted to see if anyone had actually tried and was successful.
Well if you ever make it work make sure to make a build thread or a writeup. That would be somethijng i would definitly atleast give a read through.
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Alright, good thing I asked. From what I found, if it did create any amount of energy at all, it would use just as much to create the energy so in reality you get 0 gain. I just wondered because anything to make a 4.0 have a longer range would be incredible.
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A properly made hydrogen fuel cell is only to act as an octane booster on an engine running plain ol' gasoline by pumping the hydrogen into the air intake. A past student at my college put a pro made kit on his Honda, apparently he gets nearly 100mpg. On Mythbusters they removed the engines gasoline system completely and tried running it ONLY on the tiny cell they made.

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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
You searched and found the same thread on here that I found? lol
(https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/hyd...sion-kit-4348/)
The popular mechanics thing yes, but i actually seen the mythbusters episode. Only thing that seemed to work was moth *****. Although i do often have problems with the way they handle myths.. I'm often thinking "why the hell dont you just do it this way?"
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A properly made hydrogen fuel cell is only to act as an octane booster on an engine running plain ol' gasoline by pumping the hydrogen into the air intake. A past student at my college put a pro made kit on his Honda, apparently he gets nearly 100mpg. On Mythbusters they removed the engines gasoline system completely and tried running it ONLY on the tiny cell they made.
That's what I was trying to get at, just an octane booster. If there is a kit to just increase MPG's by boosting the octane, I'm all for it
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
The popular mechanics thing yes, but i actually seen the mythbusters episode. Only thing that seemed to work was moth *****. Although i do often have problems with the way they handle myths.. I'm often thinking "why the hell dont you just do it this way?"
They've said in interviews that over the seasons, the goal has shifted away from accuracy and conclusiveness, and toward entertainment and children. They say they feel like they have an opportunity to inspire kids, and they want to encourage to go try the things they're wondering about.

While it ruined the show for me, I respect the intent.
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That's what I was trying to get at, just an octane booster. If there is a kit to just increase MPG's by boosting the octane, I'm all for it
Yep, the way it's MEANT to work is you install a reliable fuel cell that has a constant output, then adjust the engine to run lean on Gasoline. The hydrogen it gets compensates for the lower amount of gas it's getting, thus it uses less gas while running cleaner.

The little joke-sized cell they made on Mythbusters wouldn't run a moped, yet alone a full size engine in a car. I love those guys, but that was one of the things they mucked up big time.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
They've said in interviews that over the seasons, the goal has shifted away from accuracy and conclusiveness, and toward entertainment and children. They say they feel like they have an opportunity to inspire kids, and they want to encourage to go try the things they're wondering about.

While it ruined the show for me, I respect the intent.
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Yep, the way it's MEANT to work is you install a reliable fuel cell that has a constant output, then adjust the engine to run lean on Gasoline. The hydrogen it gets compensates for the lower amount of gas it's getting, thus it uses less gas while running cleaner.

The little joke-sized cell they made on Mythbusters wouldn't run a moped, yet alone a full size engine in a car. I love those guys, but that was one of the things they mucked up big time.
Exactly what I would like to see.

Mythbusters used to inspire by making science fun and by proving or disproving myths. The occasional screw up would be met with viewer criticism and usually things were fixed. Unfortunately, I see Mythbusters becoming as informational as honey booboo or whaterver her name is
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Originally Posted by 1976Mustang
Yep, the way it's MEANT to work is you install a reliable fuel cell that has a constant output, then adjust the engine to run lean on Gasoline. The hydrogen it gets compensates for the lower amount of gas it's getting, thus it uses less gas while running cleaner.

The little joke-sized cell they made on Mythbusters wouldn't run a moped, yet alone a full size engine in a car. I love those guys, but that was one of the things they mucked up big time.
but wouldnt that put more wear on the engine? and what about power? Would you atleast break even on torque and horsepower?
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Sorry to interrupt the fun, but how likely would it be that i'd need an SYE and shaft at 4.5" of lift? Or how long can i run a tcase drop? Id like 4.5"s but if im absolutely gonna need an SYE and shaft(an expense i cant really afford now) then im gonna get a 3" zone lift with some 33s.
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Sorry to interrupt the fun, but how likely would it be that i'd need an SYE and shaft at 4.5" of lift? Or how long can i run a tcase drop? Id like 4.5"s but if im absolutely gonna need an SYE and shaft(an expense i cant really afford now) then im gonna get a 3" zone lift with some 33s.
Likely, but not guaranteed. If money is tight, you can run a temporary TC drop until you can afford an SYE.
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Originally Posted by jeeperscreepers92
but wouldnt that put more wear on the engine? and what about power? Would you atleast break even on torque and horsepower?
I'm not sure about that, i always wondered if it would cause more rust inside the exhaust system and engine since the main byproduct of burning hydrogen is water. As for power, if you get the mix right i think it would be the same if not more powerful.
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Likely, but not guaranteed. If money is tight, you can run a temporary TC drop until you can afford an SYE.
Such a dilemma lol. The zone lift is barebones, rear leafs and springs only basically. So id be buyin a lot of extras anyways. If i can find a 4.5 with majority of stuff id need and just get a tcase drop i suppose ill do it.
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