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Old 04-11-2013, 02:46 PM
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Freon is no longer used because of EPA regulations. Supply is dwindling and production has ceased.
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Originally Posted by tssguy123
Isn't freon expensive as hell? My dad owns his own AC business and he mentioned something about a cylinder costing $400 or something crazy like that...

and second, manual windows suck ***. I don't mind it so much unless I have to roll down the passenger window...
No they aren't that expensive. You can buy the little cans at autozone, pepboys etc. Some of the nicer ones have a guage on them too. Maybe 20 bucks if that even. It doesn't take all that much to fill the system. It's easy to do so i would suggest going this route. If you go to a shop it gets expensive though. You can do it right in the parking lot with no fancy tools.

At work we have 30lb bottles for the buses. You could probably do like 40 cars with one of them. Lol it shouldn't take more than a lb.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Freon is no longer used because of EPA regulations. Supply is dwindling and production has ceased.
Yep. besides i prefer the new stuff. to me its a simpler recharge....
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Also, while we're on the topic of AC... mine makes a weird *** noise when it's on... it's really hard to explain. It seems to cool "okay".. could definitely be colder.. I'll try to get a video of the noise later.
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Originally Posted by NewJerseyXJ609
No they aren't that expensive. You can buy the little cans at autozone, pepboys etc. Some of the nicer ones have a guage on them too. Maybe 20 bucks if that even. It doesn't take all that much to fill the system. It's easy to do so i would suggest going this route. If you go to a shop it gets expensive though. You can do it right in the parking lot with no fancy tools.

At work we have 30lb bottles for the buses. You could probably do like 40 cars with one of them. Lol it shouldn't take more than a lb.
I'm talking about 30 pound canisters... I was standing there when he was on the phone with his distributor and he asked how much r22 was and they told him like 400 for a canister or less if you buy a whole pallet... haha. I just called him and asked and he said 250 for 30lbs of r134a and 450-700 for r22.

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Current standard is R134a refrigerant. Freon was declared harmful to the environment.
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While we are on the topic what is needed to convert to r134a
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
The lack of freon.
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If you are lacking Freon, get ready for an R-134a conversion. Or...learn to love open windows lol
I always open windows so have never used AC, but would just rather it worked!

We had it "recharged" by the Jeep dealership about 6 years ago, and I don't think it lasted any time at all. Is it not likely that something else is up with it - surely the fan would come on as it should even if there was no Freon??

Please correct me if I'm wrong!
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If it needs a recharge, you have a leak. It should be a sealed system. I don't know what's needed to convert. The PO paid to convert my Comanche to R134a, but I'm slowly pulling out all the A/C components.
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Renix motor just decided not to start after parked for a half hour. Crank sounded good, strong fuel smell, didn't start. Connections all appeared good. Finally started when applying 50% throttle while cranking. Idling smoothly now at 12V, 160° and 20psi with 1/2 tank of gas.

Didn't try starting in Neutral, but I know my reverse lights don't always come on. Will it crank in P with a bad NSS, or am I looking at something else?

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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Remix motor just decided not to start after parked for a half hour. Crank sounded good, strong fuel smell, didn't start. Connections all appeared good. Finally started with 50% throttle while cranking. Idling smoothly at 12V, 160° and 20psi with 1/2 tank of gas.

Didn't try starting in Neutral, but my reverse lights don't always come on. Will it crank in P with a bad NSS, or am I looking at something else?
Barney is the same way. I'll stick in N and starts right up. Very rare though.
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Originally Posted by NewJerseyXJ609
This is exactly right. If you have low pressure in your system the aux fan will not run when the ac is switched on.
Hmm maybe thats y my fan wont work its blows hotter air than my heat lol
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I know its a question thread but I gotta share....LOOK AT MY POOR BABY ): lol

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Originally Posted by ScikoFaery
I know its a question thread but I gotta share....LOOK AT MY POOR BABY ): lol

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Spend 15 seconds in off topic and you'll find this.

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