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Year: 2000
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Engine: 4.0L I6cyl.
What is a Champion 483? The model of spark plug that's supposed to be in there is RC12ECC, or you can use NGK ZFR5N.
It sounds like you have a couple problems. Idle Air Controller (IAC) and Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) issues are very common. Normal idle is about 750 RPM. Toss a search into Google with "site:cherokeeforum.com" and you'll find a lot of writeups on how to clean them and test the TPS. You may also have a vacuum leak. Also a few writeups on this.
As for your oil pressure, the sending units are notorious for going out and reading very high. Do you have a pressure reading from it with the key in RUN but the engine not going? That's a pretty good sign. You can remove the oil pressure sending unit (located near the filter - common to get bumped) and use a mechanical testing gauge to check the real pressure. Probably just need a new unit, but it's important to be sure.
It sounds like you have a couple problems. Idle Air Controller (IAC) and Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) issues are very common. Normal idle is about 750 RPM. Toss a search into Google with "site:cherokeeforum.com" and you'll find a lot of writeups on how to clean them and test the TPS. You may also have a vacuum leak. Also a few writeups on this.
As for your oil pressure, the sending units are notorious for going out and reading very high. Do you have a pressure reading from it with the key in RUN but the engine not going? That's a pretty good sign. You can remove the oil pressure sending unit (located near the filter - common to get bumped) and use a mechanical testing gauge to check the real pressure. Probably just need a new unit, but it's important to be sure.
I had read something about the computer having to reset itself...but since I had the battery disconnected while changing the plugs, I'm not sure that would be an issue. I haven't let it run for more than 20 seconds or so because the oil gauge freaked me out..lol..
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[QUOTE=salad;2458153]What is a Champion 483? The model of spark plug that's supposed to be in there is RC12ECC, or you can use NGK ZFR5N.
Oh, and it is model # RC12ECC... 483 means that its just the plain copper ones...
Oh, and it is model # RC12ECC... 483 means that its just the plain copper ones...
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Year: 1999
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Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Well, I already cleaned the IAC and the throttle. I had had a check engine light on and cleaning those made it disappear.. From what you're saying, the idle was about right, maybe just a tad low. I will do a pressure reading with the car in run. Will it harm the car for me to drive it like that?
I had read something about the computer having to reset itself...but since I had the battery disconnected while changing the plugs, I'm not sure that would be an issue. I haven't let it run for more than 20 seconds or so because the oil gauge freaked me out..lol..
I had read something about the computer having to reset itself...but since I had the battery disconnected while changing the plugs, I'm not sure that would be an issue. I haven't let it run for more than 20 seconds or so because the oil gauge freaked me out..lol..
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So run DOT 4 lol. DOT 3 is only as out of date as the XJ's braking system is. It's not exactly "good" or anything
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Year: 1999
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Hey I just got into my first Cherokee its a 97 4.0 sport with a 5 speed..when I am parked or come to a stop with my foot on the clutch and shiftto reverse it grinds and sometimes wont go in I usually have to put it into first and pull forward a bit then it will go into reverse...and same way if I back out of say a parking spot then going into first is a bit sticky...synchro damage or is there something easier to fix thankyou so much!!!
First gear synchro going out is extremely common on these things. The synchronizers are brass and Chrysler screwed up a TSB that resulted in fluid that is corrosive to brass being filled by dealers during maintenance. You should confirm that your clutch is releasing all the way though. With the engine running in neutral at a stop you should be able to pick any gear and pop in and out of that gear repeatedly without any change. So if your first gear shift sucks, do 1-N-1-N-1-N-1. If the 3rd and 4th attempts are not butter smooth and feel more like the first attempt, you probably need to bleed the clutch.
Otherwise you can rebuild the tranny or enjoy the world of double clutching
Since it's a brand new to you you would do very well to change the fluid in there. Could be WD-40, could be hydraulic oil. It'll take most of 4 quarts of a good manual transmission fluid like Pennzoil Synchromesh, Royal Purple Synchromax, Royal Purple 75w90, or Redline MT-90. Do not fill with regular API 75w90 GL-5 gear oil as the GL-5 additives kill synchros.
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Year: 1997
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Grats on the XJ! Excellent choice on a manual. Reverse is not synchronized in the AX-15 so sometimes it will take some arguing to get into reverse (shifting to second then reverse usually works quite well for me)
First gear synchro going out is extremely common on these things. The synchronizers are brass and Chrysler screwed up a TSB that resulted in fluid that is corrosive to brass being filled by dealers during maintenance. You should confirm that your clutch is releasing all the way though. With the engine running in neutral at a stop you should be able to pick any gear and pop in and out of that gear repeatedly without any change. So if your first gear shift sucks, do 1-N-1-N-1-N-1. If the 3rd and 4th attempts are not butter smooth and feel more like the first attempt, you probably need to bleed the clutch.
Otherwise you can rebuild the tranny or enjoy the world of double clutching
Since it's a brand new to you you would do very well to change the fluid in there. Could be WD-40, could be hydraulic oil. It'll take most of 4 quarts of a good manual transmission fluid like Pennzoil Synchromesh, Royal Purple Synchromax, Royal Purple 75w90, or Redline MT-90. Do not fill with regular API 75w90 GL-5 gear oil as the GL-5 additives kill synchros.
First gear synchro going out is extremely common on these things. The synchronizers are brass and Chrysler screwed up a TSB that resulted in fluid that is corrosive to brass being filled by dealers during maintenance. You should confirm that your clutch is releasing all the way though. With the engine running in neutral at a stop you should be able to pick any gear and pop in and out of that gear repeatedly without any change. So if your first gear shift sucks, do 1-N-1-N-1-N-1. If the 3rd and 4th attempts are not butter smooth and feel more like the first attempt, you probably need to bleed the clutch.
Otherwise you can rebuild the tranny or enjoy the world of double clutching
Since it's a brand new to you you would do very well to change the fluid in there. Could be WD-40, could be hydraulic oil. It'll take most of 4 quarts of a good manual transmission fluid like Pennzoil Synchromesh, Royal Purple Synchromax, Royal Purple 75w90, or Redline MT-90. Do not fill with regular API 75w90 GL-5 gear oil as the GL-5 additives kill synchros.
Oh man thankyou very much thats relieving a fluid change is next on my list to do if only all that kind of stuff was free...I guess only in the world of perfect
I am having a vibration in my engine at about 2500 to 3000 rpm when in park and a vibration when in reverse. I have changed the motor mounts and tranny mount. The balancer looks good so I am at loss here. I saw an old post of a guy on here that said he narrowed it down to his torque converter?
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Well you know what a normal one is for, the super short ones are helpful to battle vibes at more extreme driveshaft angles, like you'd see on a SWB like a TJ, or if you have a lot of lift.
Here's a super short, regular, and stock setup with TJ drivetrain.
Cons would be cost and you'd probably need a custom DS (or maybe a long ZJ one if you drive an automatic with a large rear axle)
These guys have some more info: http://www.jbconversions.com/product..._short_sye.php
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Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
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Just wondering what you guys are paying for DOM tube. I need to build a cage for a lemons racer, 1.75x.120 dom, and don't want to get reamed for materials, but I don't usually buy my steel for my other misc projects. So what's a decent price per ft? 8$? Higher? Lower?
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Year: 1998, 1999
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lets say i had a 97+ donor xj with 5 speed, complete, and also a 93/94 zj shell, could i swap the complete engine/tranny/transfer case/ wiring harness/ computer etc over relatively "easy"? using xj pedals or do i need zj or homemade pedal brackets?
main question basically is how much fab work would it be if i have a complete donor, or does the donor make it so possibly the hardest part would be figuring out wiring and pedal brackets?
just an idea i'm looking into
main question basically is how much fab work would it be if i have a complete donor, or does the donor make it so possibly the hardest part would be figuring out wiring and pedal brackets?
just an idea i'm looking into
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lets say i had a 97+ donor xj with 5 speed, complete, and also a 93/94 zj shell, could i swap the complete engine/tranny/transfer case/ wiring harness/ computer etc over relatively "easy"? using xj pedals or do i need zj or homemade pedal brackets?
main question basically is how much fab work would it be if i have a complete donor, or does the donor make it so possibly the hardest part would be figuring out wiring and pedal brackets?
just an idea i'm looking into
main question basically is how much fab work would it be if i have a complete donor, or does the donor make it so possibly the hardest part would be figuring out wiring and pedal brackets?
just an idea i'm looking into
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If it is legitimately that high it would be harmful. You'd notice a lot of noise from lack of lubrication (yes I know it's a Jeep, I mean more noise than normal). Turn the key to RUN without starting the engine and see what the pressure reads as. Probably 30 or 40[/QUOTE]
Ok, so went out this morning, the pressure reading with the key to RUN was around 15... Decided to drive it to work (less than 2 miles away). The ticking sound almost sounds like its coming from the dashboard (though I know its not). Kinda reminds me of when you turn on a gas stove and you get that ticking noise... The tick gets faster as I increase speed (duh) and you can hardly hear it once I get to around 40mph. The car is still idling rough at stops and almost bucks a little when at low speeds..like when coming to a stop or just accelerating from a stop. The oil gauge stayed at almost 80 pretty much the whole time except as I was on my way home, the car seemed to "lag" a little, the pressure dropped to 60 and then went right back up. The car kept going, didn't stall. When I got home, there was a burning smell coming from the front of the car, but no smoke, and it dissipated pretty quickly. Temp stayed around 210...
Ok, so went out this morning, the pressure reading with the key to RUN was around 15... Decided to drive it to work (less than 2 miles away). The ticking sound almost sounds like its coming from the dashboard (though I know its not). Kinda reminds me of when you turn on a gas stove and you get that ticking noise... The tick gets faster as I increase speed (duh) and you can hardly hear it once I get to around 40mph. The car is still idling rough at stops and almost bucks a little when at low speeds..like when coming to a stop or just accelerating from a stop. The oil gauge stayed at almost 80 pretty much the whole time except as I was on my way home, the car seemed to "lag" a little, the pressure dropped to 60 and then went right back up. The car kept going, didn't stall. When I got home, there was a burning smell coming from the front of the car, but no smoke, and it dissipated pretty quickly. Temp stayed around 210...
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Ok, so went out this morning, the pressure reading with the key to RUN was around 15... Decided to drive it to work (less than 2 miles away). The ticking sound almost sounds like its coming from the dashboard (though I know its not). Kinda reminds me of when you turn on a gas stove and you get that ticking noise... The tick gets faster as I increase speed (duh) and you can hardly hear it once I get to around 40mph. The car is still idling rough at stops and almost bucks a little when at low speeds..like when coming to a stop or just accelerating from a stop. The oil gauge stayed at almost 80 pretty much the whole time except as I was on my way home, the car seemed to "lag" a little, the pressure dropped to 60 and then went right back up. The car kept going, didn't stall. When I got home, there was a burning smell coming from the front of the car, but no smoke, and it dissipated pretty quickly. Temp stayed around 210...
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Could the ticking have something to do with changing the spark plugs? I put some stuff on the threads when I was putting the new ones in, but I didn't add any grease where it connects to the boot... Should I have? Guess I will take off the rail again today and see if all the plugs are snug enough.. I find it suspicious that the ticking started right after changing the plugs...
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Year: 2000
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ZJ and XJ tie rod.
I know the drag link bar is a solid bar on the ZJ and much stronger but is there any difference worth getting the ZJ tie rod bar and tie rods?