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Old 05-14-2013, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Greenwire6
How do I do that? I was thinking about getting a MPGuino for sng.
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What exactly is it doing? When you turn the key on are you getting power to the lights and radio? Is it trying to start at all or you get absolutely nothing when you turn the key? Does the radio go out as soon as you move to the start position and come back on when you let go?

Your friend was suggesting you bypass everything to see if it'll start.

If you're not comfortable doing this then don't... I don't want you to get run over.

Turn the key to the run position.

PUT THE JEEP IN PARK and set the parking brake.

Climb under the Jeep with a screw driver and short the small post to the big post with the positive wire that's headed to the battery.

Short the two posts that the orange lines point to in this picture.

If it starts then your NSS, starter relay or fuse is bad. Basically that narrows it down to one circuit instead of the entire ignition system and other issues. I'd bet on the NSS.

PLEASE DON'T RUN YOURSELF OVER



You can also hold the key in the start position and jiggle the shifter and neutral.
I took the starter off; hooked a set of jumper cables up to the battery and to the starter. Positive to the location of your orange lines and Negative to the body of the starter. Starter spinned as it should.

After that I checked to see if the engine was seized by turning it manually.

After that I hooked up the bottom line of the orange lines indicated in your photo back up. I hooked the jumper cables up to the battery and to the starter so that the positive was to the location of your top orange line and the negative to the body of the starter and turned ignition to see if it would spin. It did not.

Does it acomplish the samething without teh possibility of getting run over? I am willing to try it if need be.
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What is a NSS?
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What is a NSS?
Neutral safety switch.

http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/2010/jeep-...ty-switch-nss/
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Originally Posted by NLS
What is a NSS?
Neutral safety switch. It turns your reverse lights on, lets it start in park and neutral, and other things like that.. can't remember what else
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Neutral safety switch. It turns your reverse lights on, lets it start in park and neutral, and other things like that.. can't remember what else
It also tells your ecu if your in gear. And what gear you are in
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What do you mean "Bless you" haha?
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I took the starter off; hooked a set of jumper cables up to the battery and to the starter. Positive to the location of your orange lines and Negative to the body of the starter. Starter spinned as it should.

After that I checked to see if the engine was seized by turning it manually.

After that I hooked up the bottom line of the orange lines indicated in your photo back up. I hooked the jumper cables up to the battery and to the starter so that the positive was to the location of your top orange line and the negative to the body of the starter and turned ignition to see if it would spin. It did not.

Does it acomplish the samething without teh possibility of getting run over? I am willing to try it if need be.
Not exactly. You have to supply power to the small post to make the starter spin. Just touch a screw driver to both the posts that the orange wires are pointing to with the key ON and tell us what happens. Hold it there till the Jeep starts. Then go shift from Park to 1st with the Jeep off about 50 times then try to start it in neutral.

You didn't answer my question at the very beginning of my post. What's EXACTLY is it doing when you turn the key?
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Originally Posted by odgreen89on35s

It also tells your ecu if your in gear. And what gear you are in
^this

And off the NSS decides to crap on you while you drive your jeep can jump into a different gear and stay there. Least that's what the code said when I pulle it. Happened only once thankfully in the mountains
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Cool! Can I check it by turning on the lights and see if the rear lights turn on or if the it moves in neutral? I will also try turning the ignition on and moving the shifter at same time. Does it matter that it is an automatic?
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^this

And off the NSS decides to crap on you while you drive your jeep can jump into a different gear and stay there. Least that's what the code said when I pulle it. Happened only once thankfully in the mountains
Mine went bad where if I went from r to d it would shut my jeep down. I could go backwards all day. No forward
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Cool! Can I check it by turning on the lights and see if the rear lights turn on or if the it moves in neutral? I will also try turning the ignition on and moving the shifter at same time. Does it matter that it is an automatic?
Auto is what has a nss. 5 speeds only have a switch on the clutch peddle
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Originally Posted by odgreen89on35s
It also tells your ecu if your in gear. And what gear you are in
ahhh thank you - being under the influence makes my memory foggy occasionally
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
Not exactly. You have to supply power to the small post to make the starter spin. Just touch a screw driver to both the posts that the orange wires are pointing to with the key ON and tell us what happens. Hold it there till the Jeep starts. Then go shift from Park to 1st with the Jeep off about 50 times then try to start it in neutral.

You didn't answer my question at the very beginning of my post. What's EXACTLY is it doing when you turn the key?
Sorry. It did not do anything. I turned the key and nothing happened. I thought it needed a jump. Tried that and still nothing. Lights worked but no cranking.
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