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Old 01-16-2014, 11:49 AM
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Yeah, you can't get people to grasp that concept. Adding e fans and hood vents is not the answer to an overheating engine...
exactly thank you for being the one person who understands me!!!!! I laugh at the overheating stories like "I blew my head gasket bc I forgot to turn on the switch to my 2 new efans" I can't stand it
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Hood vents can be very beneficial, but not to lower coolant temps. Efans can be very beneficial, but most installations don't consider the math involved.
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Hood vents can be very beneficial, but not to lower coolant temps. Efans can be very beneficial, but most installations don't consider the math involved.
Right but neither are necessary to keep an engine cool. I don't understand why people can't grasp that concept. The engine stayed cool for 20 years before the e-fan...
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Right but neither are necessary to keep an engine cool. I don't understand why people can't grasp that concept. The engine stayed cool for 20 years before the e-fan...
Because the clutch eventually wore out and the Jeep overheated. That means the clutch fan is garbage and needs to be replaced.

And the 25 year old radiator that corroded was obviously a bad design, and we all need solid copper 3-row rads.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:27 PM
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Right but neither are necessary to keep an engine cool. I don't understand why people can't grasp that concept. The engine stayed cool for 20 years before the e-fan...
so true
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Because the clutch eventually wore out and the Jeep overheated. That means the clutch fan is garbage and needs to be replaced. And the 25 year old radiator that corroded was obviously a bad design, and we all need solid copper 3-row rads.
also true! If it worked before, it still works fine, yes parts wear, then you change them. If your tires wear out do you replace them with something completely different? Same with engines, if you have a misfire because of a worn distributor cap, do you convert to coils? No, because you don't need to. But the efans aren't an upgrade, they are a downgrade, unless installed properly with the right setup, but even then, what's the benefit?
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also true! If it worked before, it still works fine, yes parts wear, then you change them. If your tires wear out do you replace them with something completely different? Same with engines, if you have a misfire because of a worn distributor cap, do you convert to coils? No, because you don't need to. But the efans aren't an upgrade, they are a downgrade, unless installed properly with the right setup, but even then, what's the benefit?
It's the "aftermarket is better" mentality. It's pervasive through many parts of life.
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It's the "aftermarket is better" mentality. It's pervasive through many parts of life.
But its oem quality
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But its oem quality
Head explode!
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Head explode!
Boom
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also true! If it worked before, it still works fine, yes parts wear, then you change them. If your tires wear out do you replace them with something completely different? Same with engines, if you have a misfire because of a worn distributor cap, do you convert to coils? No, because you don't need to. But the efans aren't an upgrade, they are a downgrade, unless installed properly with the right setup, but even then, what's the benefit?
Your logic about efans being a downgrade hurts the logic center of my brain.
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It's the "aftermarket is better" mentality. It's pervasive through many parts of life.
Is this sorta like my instrument cluster gauges don't work so I'll pack the connectors with Dielectric grease. It has to work because everyone says so...

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Your logic about efans being a downgrade hurts the logic center of my brain.
Yeah, I'm not gonna bother with him.

It's a trade-off, like anything else. There are advantages and disadvantages to swapping over to an all electric setup. For most of us, it isn't worth the effort. If your only problem is a warn out fan clutch, you don't need to convert. Replace the damn clutch.

Some people have good reasons for switching. The mechanical fan robs horsepower and isn't needed above ~15mph. Go-fast guys have no use for them. Guys who do a lot of water crossings also like electric fans because they can turn them off at will to prevent damage.

Like any other mod, do it if it helps you. Don't waste your money if it doesn't. But most of all: do it right or don't do it at all.
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Originally Posted by 1991Jeep_Man
Your logic about efans being a downgrade hurts the logic center of my brain.
true, what I said was stupid
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Yeah, I'm not gonna bother with him. It's a trade-off, like anything else. There are advantages and disadvantages to swapping over to an all electric setup. For most of us, it isn't worth the effort. If your only problem is a warn out fan clutch, you don't need to convert. Replace the damn clutch. Some people have good reasons for switching. The mechanical fan robs horsepower and isn't needed above ~15mph. Go-fast guys have no use for them. Guys who do a lot of water crossings also like electric fans because they can turn them off at will to prevent damage. Like any other mod, do it if it helps you. Don't waste your money if it doesn't. But most of all: do it right or don't do it at all.
and what you said makes perfect sense too, I completely agree with you
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