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Old 03-12-2014, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ccooper1234
If wranglers can do it why can't XJs do it.
Because Wranglers are designed and built that way from the factory. Many states have rules about rocker panel lip for 'safety', and the XJ/MJ platform doesn't meet that. Some states also have rules that say doors must be securely installed and closed on vehicles that were originally produced with them. (Ohio isn't one of those states. Ohio says doors, when installed, need to be closed when moving.) I'm all for doorless unibody Jeeps. Hell, I jumped my MJ several times without doors. Legally speaking, though, it is different.
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Depends on your state. You may need mirrors. Here in texas you only need one working mirror so when I take my doors off my rearview serves as my one
That is true for Texas and Ohio. For anyone who runs across this, Maryland requires two mirrors. Your rearview counts as one, and you need to have a second on one side.

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alright I trust you guys. I'll check with my uncle too he should know he drives a TJ
Customizer is right. I'm from Ohio, my dad is a cop, and I've read every code involving vehicle equipment for that state. I looked hard, and the state of Ohio requires one mirror. Your rearview counts.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Because Wranglers are designed and built that way from the factory. Many states have rules about rocker panel lip for 'safety', and the XJ/MJ platform doesn't meet that. Some states also have rules that say doors must be securely installed and closed on vehicles that were originally produced with them. (Ohio isn't one of those states. Ohio says doors, when installed, need to be closed when moving.) I'm all for doorless unibody Jeeps. Hell, I jumped my MJ several times without doors. Legally speaking, though, it is different. That is true for Texas and Ohio. For anyone who runs across this, Maryland requires two mirrors. Your rearview counts as one, and you need to have a second on one side. Customizer is right. I'm from Ohio, my dad is a cop, and I've read every code involving vehicle equipment. I looked hard, and the state of Ohio requires one mirror. Your rearview counts.
i need to find out about Georgia. I got a ticket for having no doors but there were 4 cops there and 3 of them said he shouldn't write me a ticker. I didn't fight it, because I wasn't sure and i didn't want to end up paying the ticket plus court costs. I'd assume your pretty familiar with how the code I slated out if you have read a lot about it, and I know Georgia and Ohio are different on it, but where should I start to look? I really think the ticket was bogus, because I've been pulled over and written a speeding ticket with no doors and the cop didn't say a damned thing to me about not having doors, and I got my license and **** checked by three different cops the night I got the "operating an unsafe motor vehicle" ticket, and the one who wrote the ticket was the only one who said anything about it.
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Looking for after market parts for a 2000 jeep xj and some different 31s message me on here if u have any
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Originally Posted by bhennessee1
i need to find out about Georgia. I got a ticket for having no doors but there were 4 cops there and 3 of them said he shouldn't write me a ticker. I didn't fight it, because I wasn't sure and i didn't want to end up paying the ticket plus court costs. I'd assume your pretty familiar with how the code I slated out if you have read a lot about it, and I know Georgia and Ohio are different on it, but where should I start to look? I really think the ticket was bogus, because I've been pulled over and written a speeding ticket with no doors and the cop didn't say a damned thing to me about not having doors, and I got my license and **** checked by three different cops the night I got the "operating an unsafe motor vehicle" ticket, and the one who wrote the ticket was the only one who said anything about it.
Read anything that has to do with doors, mirrors, safety equipment, "unsafe" vehicles, and anything else you can think of that might be relevant. I also suggest reading on tire coverage, maximum bumper heights, suspension lift limitations, and other Jeep related laws, purely for your own education.

http://dps.georgia.gov/sites/dps.geo...fety-Rules.pdf

http://law.onecle.com/georgia/40/index.html

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Interesting wording in the GA code:
Georgia Code - Motor Vehicles & Traffic - Title 40, Section 40-8-72
Every motor vehicle which is so constructed or loaded as to obstruct the driver´s view to the rear thereof from the driver´s position shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle.

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I got a ticket for bumper height, the state trooper measured to the bumpers when it states on modified vehicles or vehicles with aftermarket bumpers you measure to the bottom of the frame, I could have fought it but couldn't loose the money from work to take the day off
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Whats a good socket set to start out with? Like to keep in my XJ. Preferably under $50 but im flexible
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Read anything that has to do with doors, mirrors, safety equipment, "unsafe" vehicles, and anything else you can think of that might be relevant. I also suggest reading on tire coverage, maximum bumper heights, suspension lift limitations, and other Jeep related laws, purely for your own education. http://dps.georgia.gov/sites/dps.geo...fety-Rules.pdf http://law.onecle.com/georgia/40/index.html EDIT: Interesting wording in the GA code:
yea I thought that one about mirrors was odd. I read through chapter 8 which is equipment and inspections, and so no mention of doors. I did see that energy absorption devices must be in there original condition. Is a door an energy absorption device in an xj? Tried googling it, I found nothing.
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Originally Posted by bhennessee1
yea I thought that one about mirrors was odd. I read through chapter 8 which is equipment and inspections, and so no mention of doors. I did see that energy absorption devices must be in there original condition. Is a door an energy absorption device in an xj? Tried googling it, I found nothing.
I would say yes, especially a '95+ XJ. In a unibody vehicle, the door is undoubtedly an energy absorbing component in the event of a side impact. Even if there could be some wiggle room in the early years, bracing was added inside the front doors in '95 specifically for that purpose.
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How does a fuel pressure regulator works? It's in middle of the fuel rail.
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How does a fuel pressure regulator works? It's in middle of the fuel rail.
Whaddya mean? What's it's function, or how does it regulate pressure?
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Sorta of both. I mean if it regulated the pressure, wouldn't it be at the beginning of the fuel rail, not in middle of it.


Another question. Do the butterfly plate on the throttle body have to go back on the same way after being taken off? I'm not sure which side it goes on. I tried putting it in front of the light and I still can see very faint line around it.

(I only bored out the taper from under the butterfly plate)
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Good question, maybe it operates on backpressure.
As for the butterfly. If you see zero light around the edge the engine would choke, right.
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Just got towed cause jeep wouldn't start even after a jump, mechanics put new battery in and said I was good (I thought it was more than just that) but now my jeep shifts really heavy. It is an auto but it jerks harder than normal. Is this normal ? Or do I need to give these people a call?
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
Good question, maybe it operates on backpressure. As for the butterfly. If you see zero light around the edge the engine would choke, right.
isnt that what idle air control sensor is for? It control a stepper motor that push or retract the stem to allow the small amount of air for idling. I would assume lol
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
Good question, maybe it operates on backpressure.
As for the butterfly. If you see zero light around the edge the engine would choke, right.
No. That's what the IAC is for. To regulate idle air with the butterfly closed.
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