my89xj

I believe that is correct, I'm seen lots of arms that arch up.

884x4

Yeah I think it's for clearance or something

XJwonders

no. It's made that way, to gain little more clearance for the rocks

BOOMroasted

done! Waiting on that breather valve from pep boys. $10 cheaper than the dealership and no matter what it would have been here tuesday.



My question: What happens when I disconnect the hose from the fuel rail that's in the very bottom right of this image below? I'm looking to replace my injectors soon and I want to clean and paint the fuel rail. Can I disconnect that without making a huge dangerous fire mess?

DieselD

I need some help here.

My steering, it goes something like this

Normal, normal, tough to steer, normal, normal, hard to steer, normal, normal, tough to steer.

From lock to lock.

It did this on the original gear box which has been swapped out with another one from my parts Jeep. Which didn't have issues before it was decommissioned.

Could the pump be the problem? Is there something in the steering column that could cause this?

salad

Steering shaft has a U joint in it somewhere near the shock IIRC.

DieselD

Those all seem fine. No play or anything. I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure when I have the steering box off I spun the wheel and it was fine.

Also, it does the same thing even when the engine is off. If that makes a difference.

DieselD

To add, this is all with NO steering connected just the pitman arm.

I'm going to lube up those little u joints best I can next time I'm over there see if it helps. I found a couple things from googling that point to those. Also some rubber bushing thing just inside the firewall.

JerrytheJeep

How far are you turning the wheel? There's nothing to stop it from rotating 360+° you could be hitting something on the frame rail or a soft line or something. How much fluid is in the reservoir? I'm not sure but your clock spring is probably not so happy either.

DieselD

What do you mean there's nothing to stop it? The steering box is connected. It goes lock to lock (as described above). If you're talking about when the box is disconnected then I get what you're saying.

The fluid is full, I left the cap open and turned the wheel to get air out too.
There's nothing catching on the steering shaft, I checked that.

The clock spring, does a 91 have a clock spring? I popped off the horn button cover thing and nothing looked askew.

I looked up schematics for the steering shaft. I couldn't tell exactly what everything is but there seems to be a few bushings and washers and stuff where the shaft goes into firewall. I'm going to soak it down with some PB blaster next time I'm over there and see what happens.

straightsixjeep

Disconnect battery, remove plastic cap from the valve just inch's behind the fuel line connection your asking about, place rag over valve, poke the needle just like a wheel valve stem... once the pressure bleeds out your ok to remove the line. Place rags around because there is still fuel in the line/rail that can spill out.

JerrytheJeep

I'm talking out of my ***, I don't know squat about how the steering system actually works. I figured the steering spins continuously unless it's attached since there are steering stops on the axle.

Guess I need to pull apart a steering box to see how it works. I'm a visual kind of guy.

I know I've pulled that little shaft before for a buddy of mine, I just can't recall how it comes out.

BOOMroasted

Perfect thank you. In the only detailed video I could find of it the guy doesn't disconnect the rail.

DieselD

Okay I get what you were saying now. I don't know what exactly stops it but if it would continue to rotate past its throw than you'd really have to force it because it definitely feels like something stops it. Either way when it gets to where it stops I haven't forced it past that.

I was talking to my dad about it. He was suggesting that it definitely couldn't be the pump because he thinks it would do it through the entire throw of he box. Also, it feels the same way (tough to turn, then normal and back again) even with the engine not running. Makes sense.

So that just leaves everything from the steering box to the steering wheel I guess.

sycoglitch

Last time ive dealt with something as you described it, it was the joints in the steering shaft itself. A guy had hit a pothole so bad it screwed them bad. Same symptoms, turn wheel it be easy the hard the easy again. It wouldn't happen with just the pitman connected because the tires it what makes it work harder.

You're saying it happens only when the pitman arm is connected to the drag link right?