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Old 07-29-2015, 04:06 PM
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Glad you got it working.
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Glad you got it working.
too bad I found that out after I started tearing my dash apart. Lol
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too bad I found that out after I started tearing my dash apart. Lol
LOL that's the worst! Hey I think I deserve some credit I said blue fuse so I was kinda right haha! Glad to hear you figured it out!
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Been looking at maybe replacing my control arm bushings as I've definitely got death wiggle going on, trying to catch it before full blown death wobble. No lift.

Had a parts guy suggest buying new arms entirely, as the original ones have the bushings vulcanized to the arm. I thought you could just press the bushings. Who's full of BS, me or the parts guy? Also, what's easier in the long run?
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Originally Posted by NM-XJ
Had a parts guy suggest buying new arms entirely, as the original ones have the bushings vulcanized to the arm. I thought you could just press the bushings. Who's full of BS, me or the parts guy? Also, what's easier in the long run?
Pics of the control arm man!

He's full of it unless ALL of the bushing is gone and the metal sleeve is melted to the arm. Pretty sure you would notice that. They can be pressed out and new stock arms would be just fine for a no lift xj. Although if you want some adjustable ones that would work too. All about how much you want to spend.
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Okay so tomorrow I'm going to look at what someone claims on thier life is a 97 xj Classic but it's the old school body style. Is this possible?
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Okay so tomorrow I'm going to look at what someone claims on thier life is a 97 xj Classic but it's the old school body style. Is this possible?
'96, maybe. You can swap the fenders, doors, flares, front clip, and even the interior if you're committed... but the taillights don't like on XJs. Check those, and you have your answer.
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It's certainly possible... Ford did this a lot with f-150 production overrun from previous model years on a "change" year, they called them Heritage editions. I know they did it in '96-97 and again in '03-04. It's not unreasonable to assume Chrysler did the same thing since everyone's process models in the 1990s were so similar.
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It's certainly possible... Ford did this a lot with f-150 production overrun from previous model years on a "change" year, they called them Heritage editions. I know they did it in '96-97 and again in '03-04. It's not unreasonable to assume Chrysler did the same thing since everyone's process models in the 1990s were so similar.
You're right about Ford, I think, but that wasn't the case with Cherokees.
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You're right about Ford, I think, but that wasn't the case with Cherokees.
Well, of all the vehicles I've owned, 90's chryslers represent the smallest percentage of that number, so I'll happily defer to those with more experience with the brand. However I still think the possibility exists, especially since 1996 saw XJ production numbers shoot to well over 286,000 units, more than double 1995's number.

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Well, of all the vehicles I've owned, 90's chryslers represent the smallest percentage of that number, so I'll happily defer to those with more experience with the brand. However I still think the possibility exists, especially since 1996 saw XJ production numbers shoot to well over 286,000 units, more than double 1995's number.

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Chrysler simply adjust the model year to match body style, without regard for production date. For example, no 1996 Wranglers were ever produced, but ChryCo did produce 1995 YJs and 1997 TJs in calender year 1996.

'96 was a bastard year for the Cherokee with the implementation of OBD-II. Halfway through the year, production was shifted from the older engine sensors to the new "1997" sensors. Body style, however never crossed the generation gap.
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Chrysler simply adjust the model year to match body style, without regard for production date. For example, no 1996 Wranglers were ever produced, but ChryCo did produce 1995 YJs and 1997 TJs in calender year 1996.

'96 was a bastard year for the Cherokee with the implementation of OBD-II. Halfway through the year, production was shifted from the older engine sensors to the new "1997" sensors. Body style, however never crossed the generation gap.
I did know that about the wranglers. Interesting... But then again Chrysler did a lot of interesting things in the 90's. I love my '96, but yeah sorting some of the changeover electrical stuff has been interesting also. I have fuses I'm not supposed to have, don't have others, and my owners manuals and service books can contradict each other all day long. I hear '97 is a real nightmare.
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Originally Posted by NM-XJ
Been looking at maybe replacing my control arm bushings as I've definitely got death wiggle going on, trying to catch it before full blown death wobble. No lift.

Had a parts guy suggest buying new arms entirely, as the original ones have the bushings vulcanized to the arm. I thought you could just press the bushings. Who's full of BS, me or the parts guy? Also, what's easier in the long run?
Did mine my self, no problems except right lower side when I went to put it back in, had to jack front axles up to get the bolt back in. Just be careful when you beat the old bushings out that you don't flatten the arm, use a spacer, block of wood worked for me,
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Originally Posted by NM-XJ
Had a parts guy suggest buying new arms entirely, as the original ones have the bushings vulcanized to the arm. I thought you could just press the bushings. Who's full of BS, me or the parts guy? Also, what's easier in the long run?
Bushings are vulcanized to a 'can', then can is pressed into arms.
It is easier and not much more in cost to replace the entire stock arm. Especially if yours are rusty/corroded, the metal is thin.
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Originally Posted by waffalz22
Okay so tomorrow I'm going to look at what someone claims on thier life is a 97 xj Classic but it's the old school body style. Is this possible?
Its possible that they swapped the front clip due to a wreck or something

Take a look at the hatch, if its fiberglass its 96-down, if its metal its 97-up, no mix-match is possible
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