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Old 02-21-2016, 07:54 AM
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Check this one out too... I love JP Magazine, it's a great resource. The subscription money is not wasted.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/en...ing-true-lies/

As far as my recommendations, the first thing I would do is refresh all the grounds in the Jeep. Any place that you see a wire bolted or screwed to the body, take it off, hit it and the body with a wire brush, and put it back on. Replace wires that need replacing and anything that has severe corrosion, try to identify WHY it's there.

Next, I would replace all your bushings, followed by the steering links. The first thing to catch your attention after you lift your Jeep will be death wobble. With 208k miles on it, I can guarantee your steering and bushings (as well as the suspension itself) is tired and worn out if the PO didn't replace or service anything.

Check the diff fluids. If they've never been serviced, change the fluids and inspect the current fluid for metal shavings - then check the gears and bearings themselves for abnormal wear.

Crawl under the jeep and check the ujoints.

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Check the unit bearings for play. Pick a side to start with and jack it up under the axle (never use the control arm mounts, steering knuckles - or inner "C's", or shock mounts as jack points). Grab the top of the tire and the bottom of the tire and try to wiggle it. Any slop at all can cause deathwobble on a lifted jeep and uneven tire wear on any jeep.

Check your radiator fluid... not just the level, but what color is it? Is it still good? There are tools available at auto parts stores to accomplish this. Basically sucks up some of the fluid into the tool and checks it... there'll be a gauge to tell you if it's good or not.

I know what it's like to get a jeep and start throwing upgrades at it. Hell, when I got mine it was 2wd and the first thing I wanted to do was convert it over and lift it. 5 years later, it's finally lifted and I'm working on the swap now... but what I should have started doing from the beginning is getting it back to original stock quality. Right now, even though your jeep might run and drive fine, it's sub-par.

Give your jeep a little attention now, and it will perform a lot better for a lot longer.
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Just got a headlight harness and for the life of me I cannot find a good play by play thread on how to install. Is there a good one here? Trust me, I need a really good picture pages instruction guide.

Never mind, I figured it out! I didn't realize that the old wiring was kept intact.
It's easy. It's a SUPPLEMENTAL harness.

Glad you got it.

Lights a teeny bit brighter?
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:21 PM
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Does anyone know what year the interior XJ sun visors changed style? I've come across an 88 and an 89 that have different visors lamps than later models. I'm thinking 93 and later have the newer style. If anyone has a 92 or earlier, do you have fuse style bulbs in your visors of the wedge style where only one end fits in a socket?

Second, does the entire 97 model year use the older style dome and cargo lamp? I know some do, but I'm not sure if all do. Along those lines, I believe the 97 uses the newer style overhead console (when equipped) but would like some confirmation if anyone knows.

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Originally Posted by akasnajo
Does anyone know what year the interior XJ sun visors changed style? I've come across an 88 and an 89 that have different visors lamps than later models. I'm thinking 93 and later have the newer style. If anyone has a 92 or earlier, do you have fuse style bulbs in your visors of the wedge style where only one end fits in a socket?

Second, does the entire 97 model year use the older style dome and cargo lamp? I know some do, but I'm not sure if all do. Along those lines, I believe the 97 uses the newer style overhead console (when equipped) but would like some confirmation if anyone knows.

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Alright let's see if I can answer this set of questions.
84-96 there was 3 different kinds of visors.
First was a short no mirror option.
Second was a "long" kind. They filled the void above the rearview mirror.
Third was the short set with illuminated mirrors. Also used when the ohc was added.

As for the 97+ question they used the old style dome light in just 97 I believe. 98-01 got an update with map lights.
The 97+ ohc was kinda rare. Each year got a different harness with different plugs.
They are also a different shape compared to 96 and down.

Hope I answered at least one of your questions with an answer you're looking for lol
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Originally Posted by odgreen
Alright let's see if I can answer this set of questions.
84-96 there was 3 different kinds of visors.
First was a short no mirror option.
Second was a "long" kind. They filled the void above the rearview mirror.
Third was the short set with illuminated mirrors. Also used when the ohc was added.

As for the 97+ question they used the old style dome light in just 97 I believe. 98-01 got an update with map lights.
The 97+ ohc was kinda rare. Each year got a different harness with different plugs.
They are also a different shape compared to 96 and down.

Hope I answered at least one of your questions with an answer you're looking for lol
Thanks for the info. I can't believe I've had the 97 config wrong for so long. I'm honestly surprised at how many XJs have the OHC. Of the people I've dealt with, it's about 25% for 97+.

I can manage without knowing when the visors changed in the older XJs. It would be nice, but it isn't critical.

Thanks!
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I don't think it's extremely common for them to break, although it does happen. If you are lifting anyway, I'd look into new leaf packs or at the very least build off a pack that's in better shape. That's a lot of rust you've got on that MI rig. PB Blast everything!!!
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Originally Posted by jay_sco
I don't think it's extremely common for them to break, although it does happen. If you are lifting anyway, I'd look into new leaf packs or at the very least build off a pack that's in better shape. That's a lot of rust you've got on that MI rig. PB Blast everything!!!
The mains don't usually break, but the others will. I had entire sections broken out of several leafs, and it added up to almost 2ft of missing steel in my stock packs.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
The mains don't usually break, but the others will. I had entire sections broken out of several leafs, and it added up to almost 2ft of missing steel in my stock packs.
So I should be good with s10/blazer leafs with these mains? Another concern with all the rust is the rear upper strut mounts. Any suggestions other than pb?
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Originally Posted by Andyship10
So I should be good with s10/blazer leafs with these mains? Another concern with all the rust is the rear upper strut mounts. Any suggestions other than pb?
Mine looked like that and I ended up drilling them out and tapping the hole for a bigger bolt. Not a huge job but kind of a PITA to do. Spray them for a week or two every day until you are ready to pull them. You might be able to salvage a couple bolts. Still and retap the rest.
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Originally Posted by Andyship10
Another concern with all the rust is the rear upper strut mounts. Any suggestions other than pb?
Expect them to break, and be prepared to replace them with new hardware
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Will a front axle from 94 GRAND bolt up to a 2000 REGULAR cherokee?
With little to no mods?
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Will a front axle from 94 GRAND bolt up to a 2000 REGULAR cherokee?
With little to no mods?
Direct swap. Make sure the gears are the same ratio, and remember the year when you order replacement parts.
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Originally Posted by Larry's XJ
Will a front axle from 94 GRAND bolt up to a 2000 REGULAR cherokee? With little to no mods?
both axles are identical except for the axle shafts... ZJ axles use cv shafts and the one on Cherokees use u joints. It's also interchangeable too. U can either use u joint style or the cv style.


Oh you may need to use the rotors from the grand Cherokee axle because the hub bearings are different. Unless u want to use the 2000 hub bearings then u ll need to use the 2000 rotors
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both axles are identical
Didn't ZJs have HP30s? His '00 is LP
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