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Old 06-22-2016, 06:40 PM
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I have a ticking noise at idle that goes away when the engine gets hot and increases until around 1500 rpm. I am pretty sure its not a rod knock, could it be a lifter tick or the flex plate making noise?
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Originally Posted by salad

Poor Man's Prime deals with a failed check valve in the pump module. Fuel pressure at the rail should be 49 PSI almost immediately after turning the key, and hold it after shutoff for at least half an hour.

...now I'm confused. Your starter doesn't crank???
Correct, when I turn the key and it doesn't start there's absolutely nothing.
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Originally Posted by 89XJDan

Correct, when I turn the key and it doesn't start there's absolutely nothing.
Yeeeeaaaah that's not your fuel pump lol

Time to check the starter relay under the hood
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Trying to take my transmission pan of to change the filter but the dip stick tube won't allow me to take it all the way off. Is the tube just supposed to slide apart? Because there is a seam part way up but it won't budge. I've tried to get to the bracket that holds the tube to the engine, but it's in such a tight spot I have no tools to get leverage. Any tips?
Gets pipe cutter, some 1/2" hose and some screw clamps, cut it off and put it back together with the hose and clamps. I just did mine and I could get it to rotate back and forth about a quart turn. Spent about and hour and a half trying to get the thing apart. Used pb and heat to I thought for sure since it would rotate around the o ring it would come off. Finally tried putting all my weight on it and busted the mount. Tried for a while after that to get it apart too. I have no idea how it could still have been so strongly stuck together. Less than 5 minutes with the pipe cutter and hose clamps and I was back in business.

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PB Blaster and/or a heat gun. It's a two-piece tube and it will come apart, it's just stubborn.

As for changing the filter... why? That's just a screen, not a filter. Is your transmission having problems? If not, just a fluid change would do you fine.
It's a really really fine screen. I used almost 2 cans of brake cleaner and I still couldn't get everything out of the mesh. For 2-3x the price of the brake cleaner and 1/10th the time I'd probably get a filter next time.
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Originally Posted by salad

Yeeeeaaaah that's not your fuel pump lol

Time to check the starter relay under the hood
Tapping the relay makes no difference, although I may replace it just for good measure.
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Thanks! I appreciate that. Everyone keeps telling me fuel pump but I'm not too sure... it takes a few key cycles to start, but pressure at the fuel rail seems to be strong. Is there any chance it's the the ignition switch? Or just needs some seafoam run through it?
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I had just ran out to check it after it sitting at work for about 3 hours, it was strong so I turned the key and no start, checked the pressure again and it was strong again. It starts after a few cycles, sometimes two, sometimes five, makes no difference if I pump the gas pedal or not.
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Lights on the dash all shut off except for the brake light, it doesn't turn over, there's no clicking noise, just dead.
At least I get clicking in the junction block area

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Correct, when I turn the key and it doesn't start there's absolutely nothing.
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Yeeeeaaaah that's not your fuel pump lol

Time to check the starter relay under the hood
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Tapping the relay makes no difference, although I may replace it just for good measure.
This all sounds really familiar...

Edit: I'll leave this here: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/99-...9/#post3269874

Tried jiggling the shifter right?
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Originally Posted by rcguymike

At least I get clicking in the junction block area

This all sounds really familiar...

Edit: I'll leave this here: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/99-...9/#post3269874

Tried jiggling the shifter right?
It's definitely not random, it's every time I try to start it and started happening after it sat for a few days while I was out of town.
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Originally Posted by 89XJDan
It's definitely not random, it's every time I try to start it and started happening after it sat for a few days while I was out of town.
If after you simply cycle the ignition switch it starts, I would strongly suspect the switch itself is bad.
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It could also be a failing CPS, but I think that's less likely given the symptoms
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
If after you simply cycle the ignition switch it starts, I would strongly suspect the switch itself is bad.
That was my initial assumption, especially considering the number of cycles it takes is totally inconsistent. The bottom of the column is missing so I'm not sure if that means the PO replaced it or was trying to chase down an issue.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
It could also be a failing CPS, but I think that's less likely given the symptoms
Don't you give me that kind of heart attack!
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Hey so I want to use a factory fog light switch for my grill lights. Two questions:

I have a blank spot on my panel that looks ready for a switch. Do I just cut the blank part out and the switch just locks in?

As far as the wiring, it looks like the switch has a spot in the back for an electrical connector. Where can I get the connector with a pig tail? Junk yard is last option for me. I don't have one near by or the time to go.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
It could also be a failing CPS, but I think that's less likely given the symptoms
Bad CPS causing a no crank? This isn't Facebook
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Originally Posted by 89XJDan

Tapping the relay makes no difference, although I may replace it just for good measure.
Swap it with another relay.
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Originally Posted by salad
Bad CPS causing a no crank? This isn't Faceboon
Valid point. I shouldn't give tech advice without sleep
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