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Old 01-10-2012, 10:41 AM
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Would 2001 wrangler rims fit my 87 cherokee as far as backspacing/center hole

Edit: i have deduced that the backspacing is 5.5 were as ours are 5.25? But still unclear on the center hole size

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pretty much stock ,slightly bigger tires, small lift maybe 3 inches,but thats about it..
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Okay, I'm still having problems with my Xj. The no starting issue, its at work and am about to go take the battery out and see if it is bad or what is going on with that, but outside of getting the battery tested what else do you guys reccomend checking.

On a side note, My Jeep lately has had power and everything, and then when I go to turn it over all the power cuts out completely and then it is all dead. I tried taking the NSS out to clean it, but it would NOT BUDGE off of the shifting shaft. I hooked the battery back up and bolted the NSS back down and it started right up... Any ideas?
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Would 2001 wrangler rims fit my 87 cherokee as far as backspacing/center hole

Edit: i have deduced that the backspacing is 5.5 were as ours are 5.25? But still unclear on the center hole size
yes they will - straight swap
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Okay, I'm still having problems with my Xj. The no starting issue, its at work and am about to go take the battery out and see if it is bad or what is going on with that, but outside of getting the battery tested what else do you guys reccomend checking.

On a side note, My Jeep lately has had power and everything, and then when I go to turn it over all the power cuts out completely and then it is all dead. I tried taking the NSS out to clean it, but it would NOT BUDGE off of the shifting shaft. I hooked the battery back up and bolted the NSS back down and it started right up... Any ideas?
battery terminals - wire brush the posts shiny and replace the terminals.
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Originally Posted by salad
Assuming you're running stock wheels/tires/gears/and your speedometer is fine, you should consider the following:

- Do a tuneup including oil and fluid changes, spark plugs, air filter, and all that. Gummed/soured plugs, fluids outside of spec and clogged filters can cause poor efficiency.
- Commonly the exhaust manifold cat develop a crack, most often on the downpipe weld near the collector way down by the flange that bolts up to the cat. I bought my 1999 and within a week or so this busted open. Drank a ton of gas, made a slight gurgling/hissing sound (especially under acceleration) and smelled pretty bad. Originally I thought it was fuel but it's the same smell as when a car warms up in the winter
- Over time the pre-catalytic converter O2 sensor can get dirtied up and lose sensitivity and cause an unnecessarily rich mixture... similar to an exhaust manifold leak
- Are you running with the defogger on all the time? My last car had no AC, so I got used to having air blowing on the windshield constantly. Imagine my surprise when I found in the manual that, even though the **** isn't marked (and there's no light... grrrr) the Defog vent control actually runs the AC system when its above freezing outside. For a month I was running my air conditioner without even realizing it

Once you rule the above out the problem may be more in depth.

Edit: I have poor record keeping (forget to reset trip odometer and write down fuel consumption) but I got 21.something MPG over Christmas break carrying 4 people up to the family's place for dinner.
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can you explain more about this exaust leak that could be causing this problem,,i did smell what i thought was a gas leak the other day ,i thought it might be the injectors leaking ,but after keeping an eye on them for a while i determined its not a fuel leak at the injectors..this crack was on the manifold itself or on the pipe near the catilictyic converter flang? i supose then the 02 sensor would be getting wrong information causing excessive fuel consumpsion?
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battery terminals - wire brush the posts shiny and replace the terminals.
Just cleaned the posts an it fired right up. I will replace the terminals because I feel like I did do a shotty job when I initially went from side mount to top mount. But for all three instances where this happened to me it seems as though if I detacth the battery and let it sit for a while. And then hook it all bak up it seems to start again (w/o charging or tampering with battery)

Is there anything else that any body would recommend me checking before I get stuck somewhere again?
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no i guarantee your problem lies with that connection
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no i guarantee your problem lies with that connection
I'll take your word on that one. Thanks a lot for the help, and I apologize for my n00bness.
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Originally Posted by xjdreamer2
this crack was on the manifold itself or on the pipe near the catilictyic converter flang? i supose then the 02 sensor would be getting wrong information causing excessive fuel consumpsion?
It can crack in a few places, obviously near welds... most seem to be on the pipe from cyls 3-6 where they meet the collector to the flange. I had a crack and actually a hole in mine. As a result the raw exhaust causes the smell and fresh air gets into the exhaust system, fooling the O2 sensor and the ECU into thinking that it's running lean and dump more fuel in.
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Thanks for the help so far. I'd be lost, otherwise lol.

*Edit: I went out and bought some Iso Heet. It's a fuel antifreeze, water remover and injector cleaner. Also poured in some octane booster for shˇts and giggles. Got some gas too so all the additives could mix in real well and drove around about 10 miles. I'll have to let the Jeep cool down and sit for a bit and start it up later to see if the problem reoccurs. I'll let you know what happens.

Don't know if it just hasn't had enough time to work or if I have to run the engine through an entire tank of gas, but my above "fix" hasn't yielded any positive results. I'm beginning to think I have a more complex issue going on with the Jeep.
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how hard is it to build adjustable arms upper and/or lower? any one have plans
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Im starting to get curious on exactly how much lift i really have ( po before the po lifted the rear and maybe the front) the front was sagging when i got it and i put 2" spacers in it and its still got a rake. Does anyone know the stock renix model ride height with 205/75s or from hub to flair front and back
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Originally Posted by Jeepyjeepy
Im starting to get curious on exactly how much lift i really have ( po before the po lifted the rear and maybe the front) the front was sagging when i got it and i put 2" spacers in it and its still got a rake. Does anyone know the stock renix model ride height with 205/75s or from hub to flair front and back
I think on stock height from hub to flare it should be 17". Not positive though.
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Originally Posted by jx2991

I think on stock height from hub to flare it should be 17". Not positive though.
I pretty sure that's right.
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