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Old 01-25-2012, 01:35 AM
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I know one person on here is supposedly doing the switch. There is a company that makes a 4.0 application specific kit, but it is and isnt legal for street use. Its only legal if proper safety equipment etc is used due to you caring a pressurized tank in ur vehicle that is highly explosive/flammable lol. But the kit does away with all computer control so ur back to carb country
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My 96 won't start. I just got it together after having the head rebuilt and it did run before this. I have spark and fuel, and have tried a small shot of starting fluid with no success, not even a pop. The distributor was not touched, so its not 180 out.

Am I overlooking something simple?
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I've searched all over and can't figure out what this is . It's under the back seat.
Beats me!

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The art college.
Cool... Buddys wife graded there... Good college... Theres also branches like in atl... But the atl branch is just a warehouse or something... Savannahs a larger nice actual college... And close to a lot of cool places... Tybee island... Hilton head island... Jacksonvle fl... Charleston SC... Good area...

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Has anybody on this forum tried anything like a propane or butane conversion? We got propane coming out of our ears here in the U.S., and it's plenty legal to use as a motor fuel, and since rural areas use propane and butane gas to cook and heat their homes, it ought to be pretty readily available. Anybody?
Not that I have seen but curious... I dunno what propane is broke down by gallons though...
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Begen
My 96 won't start. I just got it together after having the head rebuilt and it did run before this. I have spark and fuel, and have tried a small shot of starting fluid with no success, not even a pop. The distributor was not touched, so its not 180 out.

Am I overlooking something simple?
Timing... or firing order good?
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:28 AM
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my 93 cherokee was clunking when i turn left while in 4wd and i found it was the u joint,no problem.replaced,still clunking some.to auto zone.asked for a cv shaft for my jeep,and it was completely different.took it back.he said,you have a 92 cv on a 93,and you will have to go to a 4wd specialty shop.checked ebay,and nothing looks like mine.help!
so,i changed my half shaft for one firom the junk yard,and it clunked worse than mine!i read someone on here said the 4wd is supposed to clunk on dry road.is this true,cause mine never did until recently.so,if it is the front trans,is it easier to replace the gears than pull the entire assembly?
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Yes do not use 4wd on dry pavement.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by brewer
so,i changed my half shaft for one firom the junk yard,and it clunked worse than mine!i read someone on here said the 4wd is supposed to clunk on dry road.is this true,cause mine never did until recently.so,if it is the front trans,is it easier to replace the gears than pull the entire assembly?
They tend to always kinda jump or pop... all my 4x4's have done it... They WILL do it when in 4x4

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Yes do not use 4wd on dry pavement.
Yes u can... 4H is fine... People drive around up north all the time between dry and icey pavement in 4h... No different then AWD jeeps...
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Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
Yes u can... 4H is fine... People drive around up north all the time between dry and icey pavement in 4h... No different then AWD jeeps...
Ehhh no... Unless you only literally go in a straight line, using 4H on a dry surface without any opportunity for tension to be released like in mud, ice, or snow, you're going to cause damage just like the OP found from the U-joints to the transfer case. Theres a giant sticker on the drivers side sun visor about this.

If you have the NP242 transfer case there is a differential which will let you operate on high traction surfaces safely, but only when "full-time 4WD" is selected. The more common NP231 will do the above and your drivetrain will rip itself apart.

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Originally Posted by salad
Ehhh no... Unless you only literally go in a straight line, using 4H on a dry surface without any opportunity for tension to be released like in mud, ice, or snow, you're going to cause damage just like the OP found from the front U-joints to the transfer case. Theres a giant sticker on the drivers side sun visor about this.
x2.

Those with a 231 "Command-Trac" T-case can not use 4H Part-Time on dry pavement. However, 242 "Select-Trac" T-case owners can use 4H Full-Time on any surface. I believe the 242, when in 4H Full-Time, allows for slippage within the T-case to prevent power train damage.
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Originally Posted by onlyinajeep726

x2.

Those with a 231 "Command-Trac" T-case can not use 4H Part-Time on dry pavement. However, 242 "Select-Trac" T-case owners can use 4H Full-Time on any surface. I believe the 242, when in 4H Full-Time, allows for slippage within the T-case to prevent power train damage.
What it is with the np242 is that it allows for the front and rear wheels to turn at different speeds. So it won't bind when turning.

A np231 all tires turn at same time and travel in same direction so when you trying to turn in 4wd in a np231 what happens is your front tires are turning but your rear tires are still trying to go in a straight line causing it to bind up and this can potentially damage drive line parts.

Even in a straight line your shouldn't use 4hi on the command trac cause if you have good new tires you're still causing stress on the driveline cause of te added stress from the tries gripping and not slipping.
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Originally Posted by onlyinajeep726
x2.

Those with a 231 "Command-Trac" T-case can not use 4H Part-Time on dry pavement. However, 242 "Select-Trac" T-case owners can use 4H Full-Time on any surface. I believe the 242, when in 4H Full-Time, allows for slippage within the T-case to prevent power train damage.
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What it is with the np242 is that it allows for the front and rear wheels to turn at different speeds. So it won't bind when turning.

A np231 all tires turn at same time and travel in same direction so when you trying to turn in 4wd in a np231 what happens is your front tires are turning but your rear tires are still trying to go in a straight line causing it to bind up and this can potentially damage drive line parts.

Even in a straight line your shouldn't use 4hi on the command trac cause if you have good new tires you're still causing stress on the driveline cause of te added stress from the tries gripping and not slipping.
That's basically what I just said...
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Originally Posted by onlyinajeep726

That's basically what I just said...
I broke it down a lil further is all
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch

Even in a straight line your shouldn't use 4hi on the command trac cause if you have good new tires you're still causing stress on the driveline cause of te added stress from the tries gripping and not slipping.
That... makes no sense lol
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
I broke it down a lil further is all

I see. You know, this thread got me researching the difference between the 231 and 242. Pretty interesting stuff about the two. Seems like it's split down the middle as to which is better. 242 seems better for mild winters where you drive on snowy and dry roads. 231 seems better for constant slippery condition driving where you're not likely to encounter dry road for a while. Good stuff, good stuff.

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Originally Posted by onlyinajeep726

I see. You know, this thread got me researching the difference between the 231 and 242. Pretty interesting stuff about the two. Seems like it's split down the middle as to which is better. 242 seems better for mild winters where you drive on snowy and dry roads. 231 seems better for constant slippery condition driving where you're not likely to encounter dry road for a while. Good stuff, good stuff.
You'll hear everyone swear by their own TC. I love my 231 but I have forgotten which has a better crawl ratio. Possible the. 231 but I wanna look that up
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