XJ Buying Advice-Selec-Trac worth seeking out?
01-29-2016, 04:10 AM
#31
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For New York City driving, I would absolutely recommend having a NP242 (select-trac). Yes I ll take a thank-you card when u get it.
One of the causes of death for those Cherokees are the OCOD...
Orange can of death
What's that?
FRAM oil filters.
I literally see every Cherokee in the junkyards or part-outs had Fram oil filters on them.
One of the causes of death for those Cherokees are the OCOD...
Orange can of death
What's that?
FRAM oil filters.
I literally see every Cherokee in the junkyards or part-outs had Fram oil filters on them.
and goin strong
01-29-2016, 04:11 AM
#32
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Will top ends (rings etc) eventually have to be done around the 200k mark? With motorcycles it's easy to comoreasion test in a parking lot. What's an advisable parking lot inspection protocol with a used XJ? Any particular wear items to be wary of, or by 200k basically expect everything to be worn out?
alternator, starter, water pump, ps pump, etc....that wears out
01-29-2016, 04:14 AM
#33
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one of my 98s is 231, the other is 242
it didnt matter to me what tcase they had when i bought them.
if the road is bad enough to justify being in fulltime 4wd in the 242, its bad enough to be safe running 4hi in the 231.
it didnt matter to me what tcase they had when i bought them.
if the road is bad enough to justify being in fulltime 4wd in the 242, its bad enough to be safe running 4hi in the 231.
01-29-2016, 06:57 AM
#34
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^ The problem with running Part-Time in those conditions is understeer and front wheels breaking traction during turns, the last thing you want descending or ascending a slick road.
Full-Time provides a more secure connection with road surface. And excels in forest trails where turns are tight and there are no obstacles or major inclines to climb.
Full-Time provides a more secure connection with road surface. And excels in forest trails where turns are tight and there are no obstacles or major inclines to climb.
01-29-2016, 10:24 AM
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That also depends on your tires.
AT s do better in 4WD - they have multi directional grip.
AS s on a slick road do way better in AWD - They are designed to go forward on a road.
I keep ATs on my big rig, and *** on my XJ.
AT s do better in 4WD - they have multi directional grip.
AS s on a slick road do way better in AWD - They are designed to go forward on a road.
I keep ATs on my big rig, and *** on my XJ.
01-29-2016, 10:50 AM
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Year: 1989 Limited
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Engine: I-6 4.0L AMC Renix
Well I obviously won't get traction with these tires. Stopped by my mechanics yesterday for other things and he noticed this. Has to be new because the crack wasn't there the day before. So I ordered some 235 AT's for $260 including free install and alignment because I have connections and they will be my tires I run until I finish fixing up my engine (and doing the HO swap) and exhaust and everything else so all that is left is typical maintenance and the lift and tires
01-29-2016, 01:27 PM
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Year: 2000
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Dang. You're in the city and don't know about auto expo in Huntington?
http://www.autoexpoli.com/mobile/index.aspx
I would definitely love to buy one of those low mileage xj's if I didn't have too many already. They have a lot of nice grands too. Prices are pretty reasonable.
http://www.autoexpoli.com/mobile/index.aspx
I would definitely love to buy one of those low mileage xj's if I didn't have too many already. They have a lot of nice grands too. Prices are pretty reasonable.
Yep, they have a '99 Limited with about 125k on it with Selec-trac right now. Price isn't listed though.
http://www.autoexpoli.com/1999-Jeep-...dx9GnlOVYi8%3d
01-29-2016, 01:46 PM
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"I eat cheeseburgers every day and it hasn't killed me, can't be that bad right?"
not having any issue doesn't mean it isn't bad for the XJ in the long run. every time oil filters are mentionned, fram is a recurrent topic and it has 10x the horror stories any other brand will have.
just do yourself a favor and listen to that advice, it can't hurt to use another brand.
not having any issue doesn't mean it isn't bad for the XJ in the long run. every time oil filters are mentionned, fram is a recurrent topic and it has 10x the horror stories any other brand will have.
just do yourself a favor and listen to that advice, it can't hurt to use another brand.
01-29-2016, 03:55 PM
#39
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^ The problem with running Part-Time in those conditions is understeer and front wheels breaking traction during turns, the last thing you want descending or ascending a slick road.
Full-Time provides a more secure connection with road surface. And excels in forest trails where turns are tight and there are no obstacles or major inclines to climb.
Full-Time provides a more secure connection with road surface. And excels in forest trails where turns are tight and there are no obstacles or major inclines to climb.
01-29-2016, 04:00 PM
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Personal experience, my dads LJ had a fram filter on it, has 166k miles, knocked when running, just some lifter tick, changed to napa gold after I told him the horror stories on this website. It is now so quiet you can hear the fuel injectors. I attribute this to higher oil flow.
01-29-2016, 05:17 PM
#41
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The Select-Trac sounds appealing but most of the XJs I've seen around here, including mine, have the standard part-time system. It worked just fine here in the recent snow. I did accidentally leave it in 4WD on pavement for a short period of time after pulling out of our snowy driveway (the dash indicator light is out) but it doesn't seem to have affected anything. (Probably not the first time that's happened in its 17 years and 220,000 miles.)
01-30-2016, 11:57 AM
#42
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I would get a selec-trac for city driving/DD and light off road. I have a 2000 with selec-trac that I purchased for my wife for her daily driver back in 2002 or 2003. I bought it from Island Jeep in Lindenhurst (no longer there). It was a leased vehicle, so I was the second owner. They had several XJ's to choose from. I picked the selec-trac for the winters. she could put it in full time, get out of our neighborhood (hilly north shore) and not worry about shifting back and forth if the main roads were clear. I wouldn't worry about mileage as much as rust.
and I just looked at Auto Expo website in Huntington. Prices are right. I think it would be worth your trip to go look. I know I'll be going there next time I'm up visiting family.
and I just looked at Auto Expo website in Huntington. Prices are right. I think it would be worth your trip to go look. I know I'll be going there next time I'm up visiting family.
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01-31-2016, 10:30 AM
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This morning I awoke to an inch and a half of cold wet snow. I am happy to have either.
I used to only have 4x4, and it worked great, but the problem was with this and fresh snow. Snow in CO compacts down to an evil slippery solid block. The 4x4 with ATs would eat it up fine, but the roadways other than my sidestreet would be wet and icy, not snowy. I would drive out to the main road, and switch back to 2wd at the stop sign.
Awd drives SO much better on these wet roadways. I am completely with ^^^ about DDing and city. Why oh why are so many cars ALL TIME AWD!!! Why are there not more 2wd/Awd... I blame Subaru.
FYI, the Ford Escape's Control Trak is really awesome for EXACTLY this. Too bad its attached to a Ford Escape.
I used to only have 4x4, and it worked great, but the problem was with this and fresh snow. Snow in CO compacts down to an evil slippery solid block. The 4x4 with ATs would eat it up fine, but the roadways other than my sidestreet would be wet and icy, not snowy. I would drive out to the main road, and switch back to 2wd at the stop sign.
Awd drives SO much better on these wet roadways. I am completely with ^^^ about DDing and city. Why oh why are so many cars ALL TIME AWD!!! Why are there not more 2wd/Awd... I blame Subaru.
FYI, the Ford Escape's Control Trak is really awesome for EXACTLY this. Too bad its attached to a Ford Escape.
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