XJ gas mileage
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I drove my lady's Golf 12 hours to Tucson once and it just siiiiiiiiips gas. It must have been getting 35mpg in the flats with a hair of a tail wind. Soooo fantastic.
Honestly, that I-25 strip down the southern corridor is great for mileage. No strong winds, incredibly flat most of the time. My XJ got 22-24 mpg during that section of road. Just super easy cruising.
Honestly, that I-25 strip down the southern corridor is great for mileage. No strong winds, incredibly flat most of the time. My XJ got 22-24 mpg during that section of road. Just super easy cruising.
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I should clarify: If you are planning long trips, then miles per tank DOES matter, but you figure it by taking a valid MPG number and multiplying by the tank capacity.
NEVER measure fuel economy by miles per tank. It's not anything resembling an accurate, repeatable measurement.
NEVER measure fuel economy by miles per tank. It's not anything resembling an accurate, repeatable measurement.
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I should clarify: If you are planning long trips, then miles per tank DOES matter, but you figure it by taking a valid MPG number and multiplying by the tank capacity.
NEVER measure fuel economy by miles per tank. It's not anything resembling an accurate, repeatable measurement.
NEVER measure fuel economy by miles per tank. It's not anything resembling an accurate, repeatable measurement.
I calculate mine by dividing how many miles I drove by how many gallons I filled up with. I always reset the trip odometer at fill up, and I always fill up til the pump clicks off. So last time I went 246 miles, divided by the 14.6 gallons I pumped = 16.8 mpg
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(And if you aren't tracking it, you are missing important information about how your engine is behaving.)
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If you're talking about the 4.0, then I dunno what to say about just how wrong you are with your claim that it was designed in the 60's... Sure, it shares a few features with its ancestors, like the fact that it has 6 cylinders, that it runs on gasoline. Oh, it also has spark plugs, too. For real though, the AMC inline 6 family was a lot of iterative design, but over time that results in a new product. The 4.0L is by no means a modern engine, and outside of its engine management system and fuel injection wasn't super advanced, but it is NOT as inefficient as something you'd find in the 60's. Most things central to the engine actually running are at LEAST a little different owing to the introduction of port fuel injection, from engine structure to cam profile, and they almost doubled the number of bolts for the valve cover, among many other things. AMC did reach into the parts bin as they usually did, so where they could they did reuse parts - but as far as I know there are very very few things you can interchange between a 4.0 and any of the legacy AMC 6's from the 258 back. The biggest thing of note is that the 4.0 is compatible with a large number of older AMC transmissions due to AMC's adherence to keeping the same bellhousing bolt patterns for so many of their designs.
On the topic of gas mileage, I get 14-20 based on where I am, what I'm doing, and how heavy my foot is. I had an AMC 360 and an AMC 258 sitting in the back for a 3 hour highway drive and got 18. That's like 1200 extra pounds!
On the topic of gas mileage, I get 14-20 based on where I am, what I'm doing, and how heavy my foot is. I had an AMC 360 and an AMC 258 sitting in the back for a 3 hour highway drive and got 18. That's like 1200 extra pounds!
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If you're talking about the 4.0, then I dunno what to say about just how wrong you are with your claim that it was designed in the 60's... Sure, it shares a few features with its ancestors, like the fact that it has 6 cylinders, that it runs on gasoline. Oh, it also has spark plugs, too. For real though, the AMC inline 6 family was a lot of iterative design, but over time that results in a new product. The 4.0L is by no means a modern engine, and outside of its engine management system and fuel injection wasn't super advanced, but it is NOT as inefficient as something you'd find in the 60's. Most things central to the engine actually running are at LEAST a little different owing to the introduction of port fuel injection, from engine structure to cam profile, and they almost doubled the number of bolts for the valve cover, among many other things. AMC did reach into the parts bin as they usually did, so where they could they did reuse parts - but as far as I know there are very very few things you can interchange between a 4.0 and any of the legacy AMC 6's from the 258 back. The biggest thing of note is that the 4.0 is compatible with a large number of older AMC transmissions due to AMC's adherence to keeping the same bellhousing bolt patterns for so many of their designs.
On the topic of gas mileage, I get 14-20 based on where I am, what I'm doing, and how heavy my foot is. I had an AMC 360 and an AMC 258 sitting in the back for a 3 hour highway drive and got 18. That's like 1200 extra pounds!
On the topic of gas mileage, I get 14-20 based on where I am, what I'm doing, and how heavy my foot is. I had an AMC 360 and an AMC 258 sitting in the back for a 3 hour highway drive and got 18. That's like 1200 extra pounds!
you're taking what I said a bit to literal my guy. What if I said you can put the 258 crank in the 4.0 , we meet in the middle , lets it was designed in the 70's? It's an old *** engine and it is clearly was built around very old design principles. I never said it was a bad engine, it's an old engine. AMC was building and revising this setup for decades. start with a 232 in the 60's, stretch the block and a few bits to create the 258, then do some more edits and boom a 242 4.0. The 4.0 had similar or better economy and power numbers compared to its competitors in the 80's but dang dude they made the 4.0 til like 07. Everyone else was wayyy passed it by that time.
Bob Sheaves himself said this-
It was due mainly to age of the manufacturing tooling, which was worn out. The long stroke made it harder to clean up the emissions of NOx, and NIH ("Not Invented Here"), in my opinion, also reared its head.
To completely retool would have cost as much (almost) as the 3.7L V6 did, and the Dodges were going to use the 3.7 as a base engine. Logically, the engine group did what they were told to satisfy the dealers...."Make a modern engine, and junk the old ones." This statement is my opinion, based on conversations at the time.
To completely retool would have cost as much (almost) as the 3.7L V6 did, and the Dodges were going to use the 3.7 as a base engine. Logically, the engine group did what they were told to satisfy the dealers...."Make a modern engine, and junk the old ones." This statement is my opinion, based on conversations at the time.
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"Designed in the 60s" is accurate. Yes, there were refinements, but the basic design was there.
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15 to 17 mpg on flat highway, speed dependant. 15 mpg if my foot is in it a bit, 70 to 75 mph. 17 mpg if I do 65 mph or so.
offroad, usually 6 to 8 mpg, terrain dependent.
15 to 17 mpg on flat highway, speed dependant. 15 mpg if my foot is in it a bit, 70 to 75 mph. 17 mpg if I do 65 mph or so.
offroad, usually 6 to 8 mpg, terrain dependent.
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