Originally Posted by Muddy4x4

So last Saturday something to do with my steering gave out while I was driving on the freeway.. the tires went left even after I turned the wheel all the way to the right. and well.. it's going to be awhile before I can hit the trails again

Originally Posted by 1987 new toy

You gonna fix it? Thats sucks man.

Originally Posted by Muddy4x4

Yeah, It's just going to take a couple months cause money is tight..
Looking at the positive side of this, I get to buy all upgraded parts for it!

Originally Posted by scottL

broken tie rod bummer dude.
i've got an extra tie rod and drag link but it's not any better than what you had on there originally.
great time to upgrade to beefier stuff now.
i bet that was a hairy situtation being on the freeway looks like you only substained minor body damage to the driver front QP from what i can see..
i'd be thankful i didn't roll if i were you!

Originally Posted by n_a_i_w

Got cherokeeforum app on my phone so I thought I'd drop every one a line and see if any one is around surprise.

Originally Posted by Muddy4x4

I'm in Peoria

Originally Posted by DaveAz

I'm near 91st & Thomas. But always out monkeying around in Goodyear.

BTW, Anyone wheel in whitetanks lately? Went out Watson Rd, and as I was exiting, got waved down by Sheriff. He said a law was passed that no motorized veh on dirt except regular dirt roads, ie Watson. Go off labeled rd, onto trail, those little mini dunes out there, and get fined.

Anyone else heard of that?

Originally Posted by Muddy4x4

That's not to far, I'm down the road from 95th and olive. Goodyear isnt very far either.

I stay away from the white tanks cause I heard you had to pay to get in, so I wouldn't know. Bummer that you can get fined..

Originally Posted by DaveAz

He mentioned something about being out there with/without purpose, or BLM permit. One purpose mentioned was hunting. Wally World has general hunting lic for $23 for a year, which will cover you being out in the desert to hunt/scout four hunting.

Originally Posted by Muddy4x4

Already got a hunting Lic picked mine up at Cableas though

Originally Posted by DaveAz

My understanding is that should work. Forgot to mention, the law is only regarding Maricopa County.

Originally Posted by DaveAz

BTW, Anyone wheel in whitetanks lately? Went out Watson Rd, and as I was exiting, got waved down by Sheriff. He said a law was passed that no motorized veh on dirt except regular dirt roads, ie Watson. Go off labeled rd, onto trail, those little mini dunes out there, and get fined. Anyone else heard of that?

Originally Posted by scottL

Originally Posted by lancetkenyon from Virtual Jeep Club

Re: White Tanks Update
The "no off-highway access inside Maricopa County is legally true. BUT.....that does not include trails inside the Maricopa COunty boundaries. I mean, considering DH is inside the Maricopa County lines, and it is also a designated trail on the TM travel management plan, it is not technically "off-highway". But, dirt roads are also not considered "off-highway" also. Neither are ANY trails that are documented, or even old mining access trails that we wheel. Historical routes often have actual numbers, and are therefore legal to wheel.

As for the park boundaries being closed, he is correct, and it has been closed for a couple months. This has been discussed quite a bit here, so should not have come as a surprise.

Besides, recreational shooting should be done in legitimate areas designated to do so, not in the open desert, and especially not in a public park owned by a municipality. This is a major reason for the park being closed to motorized vehicles. I was fotunate enough to be able to help out with showing around the Town of Buckeye employees and the most heard comments were about the trash and shooting debris that recreational shooters left in the desert. Even if you are very meticulous about picking up all of your trash, you are bound to leave at least one piece of debris out there. Be it one brass casing or small bits of paper from targets.

It has been said NUMEROUS times, stay out of the Town of Buckeye Park in the White Tanks area and respect the rules until we can hopefully get the trails reinstated into the travel management plan. Traffic out there only hurts our chances of doing so.