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Old 01-12-2016, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaminLee_
I'm still trying to find one for a zj!!
None to be found Sunday at the 2 WPB JY's. No evidence that they had them previously mounted either. I could hook you up with a hitch mount fold down that I'm releasing shortly that includes recovery point and provision for liscence plate or rotopax mounts.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Rear axles gotta track behind Front deff....
Huh? Explain....
Originally Posted by Outlaw Star
Good morning guys.

So....I'm just gonna ask, why wasn't the track bar replaced once it was lifted? And NEVER redrill the bracket.
Yeah I'll never redrill the bracket...it weakens the mount and causes wobble...
I originally had a sky jacker track bar drop bracket....I've had it on my Comanche with 4.5" of lift and no issues. And my xj with 3.5" of lift....
But after the alignment I was still getting bump steer and read that the track bar has to be parallel to the draglink which wasn't with the drop bracket...
So for now to dd my xj I took off the bracket and I'm now running the stock track bar
Before I couldn't go past 30 mph and not worry about hitting the car next to me...
With the stock track bar I can go up to 55 and still worries me of hitting the car next to me...

I'm truly pissed at myself for trying to adjust the pinion and f-Ed everything up...
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 88whitecomanche
Huh? Explain....


Yeah I'll never redrill the bracket...it weakens the mount and causes wobble...
I originally had a sky jacker track bar drop bracket....I've had it on my Comanche with 4.5" of lift and no issues. And my xj with 3.5" of lift....
But after the alignment I was still getting bump steer and read that the track bar has to be parallel to the draglink which wasn't with the drop bracket...
So for now to dd my xj I took off the bracket and I'm now running the stock track bar
Before I couldn't go past 30 mph and not worry about hitting the car next to me...
With the stock track bar I can go up to 55 and still worries me of hitting the car next to me...

I'm truly pissed at myself for trying to adjust the pinion and f-Ed everything up...
Dont learn by not trying after were done you'll be a expert just need to use your good eye...lol...
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Originally Posted by 88whitecomanche
Huh? Explain....Yeah I'll never redrill the bracket...it weakens the mount and causes wobble...
I originally had a sky jacker track bar drop bracket....I've had it on my Comanche with 4.5" of lift and no issues. And my xj with 3.5" of lift....
But after the alignment I was still getting bump steer and read that the track bar has to be parallel to the draglink which wasn't with the drop bracket...
So for now to dd my xj I took off the bracket and I'm now running the stock track bar
Before I couldn't go past 30 mph and not worry about hitting the car next to me...
With the stock track bar I can go up to 55 and still worries me of hitting the car next to me...

I'm truly pissed at myself for trying to adjust the pinion and f-Ed everything up...
Can't be PO'ed because its a learning experience. Only way to learn is do it, make mistake and go back again. Those relocation brackets are only designed for 3" max. 4.5" is really pushing it to its limits. Not saying it won't work, its just not designed for it.
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Huh? Explain....

If track bars not correct length axle sit more to driver side so jeep want to crab down road. Heres idea....
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Can't be PO'ed because its a learning experience. Only way to learn is do it, make mistake and go back again. Those relocation brackets are only designed for 3" max. 4.5" is really pushing it to its limits. Not saying it won't work, its just not designed for it.
3 inch and under preschool lifts from there to 8 inch high school area higher you go more chaching leaves wallet.
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Dont learn by not trying after were done you'll be a expert just need to use your good eye...lol...
Lmfao!!!!

Originally Posted by Outlaw Star
Can't be PO'ed because its a learning experience. Only way to learn is do it, make mistake and go back again. Those relocation brackets are only designed for 3" max. 4.5" is really pushing it to its limits. Not saying it won't work, its just not designed for it.
Well I tried lol....

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Huh? Explain....

If track bars not correct length axle sit more to driver side so jeep want to crab down road. Heres idea....
Ok got the idea...now I know why the left side of my jeep leans more than the right side...
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Lmfao!!!!



Well I tried lol....


Ok got the idea...now I know why the left side of my jeep leans more than the right side...
Wont change lean most xj got that our fat butts sag spring...lol...
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Originally Posted by 88whitecomanche
Gm fellas...
Finally got an alignment...didn't fix the bump steer...
Then double checked my trackbar and draglink angles were BAD!
So track bracket isn't cutting it I have to get an adjustable one...
So the stock track bar bracket is off but still getting a bit of bump steer...it's scary driving 55 and your jeep is turning directions it wants to go
Can't you get a drop pitman arm to correct the angles with the super lift TB mount? Also, you changed the pinion angle? Do you have enough positive caster dialed in on the arms?
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Wont change lean most xj got that our fat butts sag spring...lol...
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Can't you get a drop pitman arm to correct the angles with the super lift TB mount? Also, you changed the pinion angle? Do you have enough positive caster dialed in on the arms?
It already has a drop pitman arm installed....
The alignment shop I go to is a jeep guy he adjusted caster/camber/toe...
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Originally Posted by 88whitecomanche
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It already has a drop pitman arm installed....
The alignment shop I go to is a jeep guy he adjusted caster/camber/toe...

If the two aren't parallel, you probably need an arm with more drop. He didn't tell you that he adjusted camber, typo right?

Edit: I'm wrong about it needing more drop, disregard.

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Originally Posted by offroadordnance
If the two aren't parallel, you probably need an arm with more drop. He didn't tell you that he adjusted camber, typo right?

Edit: I'm wrong about it needing more drop, disregard.
Yeah I just need a adjustable track bar to stop bump steer
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Originally Posted by 88whitecomanche
Yeah I just need a adjustable track bar to stop bump steer

Just curious because I'm a parts guy, with the TB in the original location are the two parallel? If it gets them closer but not right, does putting the old pitman arm on with or without the TB bracket make them more parallel? The drop arm made the steering more parallel to the ground and the TB drop made them less parallel to the ground. Hope you get it worked out!
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Original location= parallel
Track bar drop bracket=unparallel
Haven't even thought about track bar drop bracket and stock pitman arm
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Originally Posted by 88whitecomanche
Original location= parallel
Track bar drop bracket=unparallel
Haven't even thought about track bar drop bracket and stock pitman arm
What about steering stabilizer? In regards to bump steer I don't see any reason not to run a HD or dual setup with oversized tires.
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