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Old 08-29-2012, 09:52 AM
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Brought my impact gun to school today. I was talking to a buddy about how it was making my backpack super heavey as we walked in, next thing I know a cop is trying to arrest me for possession of a fire arm.
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Originally Posted by mikefrost
Ok guys so I think I wanna tackle building a pair of long arms for the '95. I don't really know where to start but obviously I'm going to be doing a lot of research into the subject. I guess first thing I'll need to get started is a parts list. I already have 5' 9.5" of 2" OD 1/4 wall DOM I got from Jimmy (will that be enough) and what other parts am I going to need?
My biggest advise is to distribute the load of the frame brackets over a pretty large area. Also make sure all the welds have good penetration. Suspensions can produce a lot of stress. I've repaired 3 jeeps with control arm brackets ripped off and 1 with a track bar bracket ripped off. Ballistic makes a very good product and the customer service has gotten a lot better.
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Originally Posted by my89xj
Brought my impact gun to school today. I was talking to a buddy about how it was making my backpack super heavey as we walked in, next thing I know a cop is trying to arrest me for possession of a fire arm.
Gotta watch those ingersoll 1/2" caliber guns lol
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Also poly performance and I think ruff stuff sell suspension builder kits.
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Originally Posted by Garrettfab
My biggest advise is to distribute the load of the frame brackets over a pretty large area. Also make sure all the welds have good penetration. Suspensions can produce a lot of stress. I've repaired 3 jeeps with control arm brackets ripped off and 1 with a track bar bracket ripped off. Ballistic makes a very good product and the customer service has gotten a lot better.
I plan on doing full frame stiffeners as well for it to do just that. I've got a big Millermatic 200 here so weld penetration shouldn't be an issue. I'm sure I'll be bending your ear a bit once I get started with all of this
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Originally Posted by my89xj
Brought my impact gun to school today. I was talking to a buddy about how it was making my backpack super heavey as we walked in, next thing I know a cop is trying to arrest me for possession of a fire arm.
at least you know theyre watching out for you guys...

You can't say bomb on an airplane lol
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Originally Posted by mikefrost
I plan on doing full frame stiffeners as well for it to do just that. I've got a big Millermatic 200 here so weld penetration shouldn't be an issue. I'm sure I'll be bending your ear a bit once I get started with all of this


Mike....I did all the research on this when I owned that steel.

Yes...you can use those uppers...you just need to build lowers.

Yes...you have enough tubing....

Use JJ's at the frame side, and bushings on the axle side

Check these out...I recommend them:

http://www.trail-gear.com/rod-ends-and-link-material
The Creeper Joints....inexpensive...strong...rebuild-able....you can get the tubing inserts from them too.

Also...if you are looking at crossmembers to emulate...I love Clayton's.
http://claytonoffroad.com/product_in...roducts_id/174

Let me know if you have any questions. I was ready to do this...but decided to go LCOG so will not lift enough for long arms.
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Originally Posted by zwhiz

at least you know theyre watching out for you guys...

You can't say bomb on an airplane lol
Lol, the cop nor the principal didn't know what an impact was.
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
Mike....I did all the research on this when I owned that steel.

Yes...you can use those uppers...you just need to build lowers.

Yes...you have enough tubing....

Use JJ's at the frame side, and bushings on the axle side

Check these out...I recommend them:

http://www.trail-gear.com/rod-ends-and-link-material
The Creeper Joints....inexpensive...strong...rebuild-able....you can get the tubing inserts from them too.

Also...if you are looking at crossmembers to emulate...I love Clayton's.
http://claytonoffroad.com/product_in...roducts_id/174

Let me know if you have any questions. I was ready to do this...but decided to go LCOG so will not lift enough for long arms.
Thanks for the link Jimmy. I'd be happy to have your input on it all.
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Originally Posted by mikefrost

I plan on doing full frame stiffeners as well for it to do just that. I've got a big Millermatic 200 here so weld penetration shouldn't be an issue. I'm sure I'll be bending your ear a bit once I get started with all of this
Sounds good. Radius arms are pretty straight forward to build and they will flex as much as you want then too.
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Wait jimmy do you still have tubing?
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Frosty I agree with Jimmy on the Johnny Joints at the frame side instead of bushings, however I think with long arms you want the front of the lower arms to have a flex joint also. The less binding the better.

My LCAs have JJs at both ends and they're quiet and flex really well
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Originally Posted by dukie564
Frosty I agree with Jimmy on the Johnny Joints at the frame side instead of bushings, however I think with long arms you want the front of the lower arms to have a flex joint also. The less binding the better.

My LCAs have JJs at both ends and they're quiet and flex really well
Then that's what I shall do, I think they'd flex better with JJ on each end instead of a bushing on one. Even if it costs a little more wth I'm still saving over buying someones LA kit
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Originally Posted by dukie564
Frosty I agree with Jimmy on the Johnny Joints at the frame side instead of bushings, however I think with long arms you want the front of the lower arms to have a flex joint also. The less binding the better.

My LCAs have JJs at both ends and they're quiet and flex really well
With a radius arm all the flex comes from the frame joint
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Originally Posted by Garrettfab
With a radius arm all the flex comes from the frame joint
So no advantage to using a JJ on the axle side?


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